- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:29:00 -0700
- To: Thad Guidry <thadguidry@gmail.com>
- CC: "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
On 7/24/13 7:02 AM, Thad Guidry wrote: > > I would consider it to be an unwise choice to try to re-use or > re-appropriate existing Schema.org Types and Properties that do not fit > well into the special domains. Re-use where it can be accomplished > without redefining, 1st. Then bring up potential sticking points with > existing Schema.org Types and Properties for help from the community and > then we can circle back to gain deeper insight into potential merges, etc. > > 1st and foremost... Do not work in a silo. Instead, work with the > community. > > I would like to see a draft of ALL the possible Properties that could be > needed for Libraries (do not worry about GLAM yet) and put them up into > the Wiki as a work in progress proposal. That way we can all work together. This is taking place in the schemaBibExtend wiki: http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/wiki/Main_Page The main area of activity is in the "Vocabulary Proposals." The email list is linked from here: http://www.w3.org/community/schemabibex/ The discussion should probably take place there and on that list, rather than here in public-vocabs. I invite you (and anyone else) to join us there for the bibliography and library-specific discussion. Well-formulated proposals can then be brought to this list. kc > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net > <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote: > > This is a great example that allows us to get back to the original > question, which I think is one for this group. When one encounters a > property or class that one would like to use in a way that is "not > exactly as initially meant" - what is the preferred approach? > > We could: > 1) use it, and rely on documentation to clarify our community's use > 2) redefine it, so that it fits better into our use case > 3) create a super-property or class and a new subproperty or class > 4) create a new, unrelated property within our own community space > > If there is no overall preference, then does this group want to > entertain ad hoc suggestions for changes to definitions of > properties and classes? > > kc > > > On 7/24/13 12:59 AM, Martin Hepp wrote: > > The serialNumber is in theory meant as a unique item identifier > assigned at production or market entrance time, like the serial > number of a digital camera, the Vehicle Identification Number of > a car, etc. > > A library-specific identifier (like shelf locator ID) is not > really a serial number. I do not see major problems with using > serialNumber this way, but it is not exactly as initially meant. > > Martin > > On Jul 24, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Owen Stephens wrote: > > Hi Karen, > > How would you see serialNumber mentioned by Wes mapping > against library item identifiers? > > Owen > > Owen Stephens > Owen Stephens Consulting > Web: http://www.ostephens.com > Email: owen@ostephens.com <mailto:owen@ostephens.com> > Telephone: 0121 288 6936 > > On 24 Jul 2013, at 00:15, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net > <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote: > > Wes, I admit that some of this was a bit cryptic - were > you suggesting the properties below as a solution? We > have looked carefully at the full range of schema.org > <http://schema.org>, in particular /Product and /Offer > and are aware of these. They do not, unfortunately, > satisfy our use case. Should "/Offer" be expanded to be > more than "offer for sale" then the concept of a > "merchant-specific identifier for a product or service" > fits even though the actual term "Stock Keeping Unit > (SKU)" is not used in the library community. None of the > others represent a local number for an individual item > (not product, but single item). > > Thanks, > kc > > On 7/23/13 2:45 PM, Wes Turner wrote: > > Need: > > * lookup/index books by a unique (local?) SKU number > > WorldCat > ---------- > > WorldCat OCLC supports RDF as RDF/XML, JSON, Turtle, > Triples > http://redd.it.com/1fm5z3/#__cabsejm > <http://redd.it.com/1fm5z3/#cabsejm> > > (e.g Harry Potter as Turtle) > http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/__41266045.ttl > <http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/41266045.ttl> > > [... semantic web books] > http://redd.it/1g7ehd/#__caj4d3ni > <http://redd.it/1g7ehd/#caj4d3ni> > > > Schema.org > ------------ > * http://schema.org/docs/full.__html > <http://schema.org/docs/full.html> > * http://schema.rdfs.org/all.ttl > > > schema:Thing > schema:CreativeWork > schema:Book > > /isbn -- string literal. ISBN-(10 &&|| 13 ?) > number. > > [/sku -- string literal. SKU number] -> > schema:Product/sku > > schema:Thing > schema:Product > > /gtin13 -- ISBN-13 / EAN UCC-13 / 0UPC-12 > /gtin14 -- GTIN-14 > /gtin8 -- EAN UCC-8 > > /productID -- The product identifier, such as ISBN. > For example: <meta > itemprop='productID' > content='isbn:123-456-789'/>. > > /sku -- The Stock Keeping Unit (SKU), > i.e. a merchant-specific identifier for > a product or service, > or the product to which the offer refers. > > > schema:Thing > schema:Product > schema:IndividualProduct > > /serialNumber -- The serial number or any > alphanumeric identifier > of a particular product. > When attached to an offer, it > is a shortcut for > the serial number of the > product included in the offer. > > > > -- > Karen Coyle > kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> > http://kcoyle.net > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet > > > > ------------------------------__-------------------------- > martin hepp > e-business & web science research group > universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen > > e-mail: hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org <mailto:hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> > phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 > fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 > www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) > http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) > skype: mfhepp > twitter: mfhepp > > Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data! > ==============================__==============================__===== > * Project Main Page: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ > > > > > > -- > Karen Coyle > kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> http://kcoyle.net > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet > > > > > -- > -Thad > Thad on Freebase.com <http://www.freebase.com/view/en/thad_guidry> > Thad on LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/> -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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