- From: Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net>
- Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 14:34:27 -0700
- To: public-vocabs@w3.org
Thad, perhaps I was too flip. We cannot assume that everyone will read everything on the schema.org site before marking up some HTML. And we can't assume that everyone adding markup to a Web page is a "developer." The more apparent and accessible the schema information is, the more likely it is to be used. Expecting people to look for and make use of additional documentation in their particular area may not be a successful model. It looks to me like the medical community model is that experts will create the data, and everyone from the public to experts will consume it. They may be able to assume that those creating the data will be trained to do so. Bibliographic data is widely created by people who are not experts in bibliographic data creation, and who get no training in that area; this includes most authors, many readers (LibraryThing, GoodReads), and lot of merchants. (For the bibliographic skills of the latter, look at data provided by Amazon's third party booksellers.) I'd rather not expect that users of bibliographic data need to go further than users of, say, event information, in order to make use of schema.org. I actually want rank amateurs to be able to contribute in this area (unlike medicine, which for good reasons may wish to discourage amateurs). It may be a small barrier, but it could still be a barrier. kc On 7/23/13 1:15 PM, Thad Guidry wrote: > Actually Karen, > > Schema.org does indeed ONLY WORK by reading documentation and applying > it. And the hope is that everyone does indeed read it, use it, and > promote it. It is completely up to users & web developers to > implement...and something that does not have any effect or have any > synergy unless web developers and users embrace that documentation we > call, Schema.org It means nothing without proper documentation AND the > use of it. > > (Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc, cannot force developers to make modifications > to their sites....as hard as they have tried. Sure they can apply some > bot technology to make some assumptions about what we mean given a > certain tag or string...but that can only get you so far. Ambiguity > rears its head often. And that ambiguity is the basis for Schema.org, > least I remind you. :-) ) > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Karen Coyle <kcoyle@kcoyle.net > <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net>> wrote: > > > > On 7/23/13 7:43 AM, Dan Scott wrote: > > > I suspect here one answer is "domain-specific documentation", > along the > lines of http://schema.org/docs/__meddocs.html > <http://schema.org/docs/meddocs.html> - if we don't have an > extension mechanism available that allows processors to fall back to > "sku" when they encounter "callnumber", then having a > "Documentation for > bibliographic types" page that says "Here's how you mark up > items that > you have available for sale or loan using Offer", with examples, > should > fill the gap reasonably well. Particularly if said documentation is > available _from_ the schema.org <http://schema.org> site. > > > Dan, > > While not opposed to documentation or "best practices," given human > nature I am wary of developing anything that only works if the users > have read the documentation. ;-) > > > kc > > -- > Karen Coyle > kcoyle@kcoyle.net <mailto:kcoyle@kcoyle.net> http://kcoyle.net > ph: 1-510-540-7596 > m: 1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet > > > > > -- > -Thad > Thad on Freebase.com <http://www.freebase.com/view/en/thad_guidry> > Thad on LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/thadguidry/> -- Karen Coyle kcoyle@kcoyle.net http://kcoyle.net ph: 1-510-540-7596 m: 1-510-435-8234 skype: kcoylenet
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