- From: Joshua J Wulf <jwulf@redhat.com>
- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 08:38:44 +1000
- To: Tom Morris <tfmorris@gmail.com>
- CC: Martin Hepp <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>, Dave Caroline <dave.thearchivist@gmail.com>, Kenley Lamaute <kenleyl@microsoft.com>, "public-vocabs@w3.org" <public-vocabs@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <5015BB74.1010308@redhat.com>
On 07/29/2012 02:49 PM, Tom Morris wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Martin Hepp > <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org > <mailto:martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>> wrote: > > I think there is a misunderstanding here: While it is *desirable* > that an HTTP URI returns a representation when tried with a HTTP > GET method, the role as a unique identifier *does not break* if > the inventor of the URI goes bankrupt and stops serving > representations from that URI. > > > There's definitely a misunderstanding, but I'm not sure where it lies. > > If the domain registrant gives up their registration, for whatever > reason, and the new domain owner starts minting new URIs in the same > namespace, what implications does that have for the URIs that are now > invalid (not because they don't resolve, but because they are no > longer considered valid by the namespace owner). Tom, the only potential problem is if the new owner reuses an existing URI to refer to a different product. That's a real edge case, and yeah, if you do the wrong thing, bad things result. In the context of this proposal the URI is being used as a UUID. Getting something back when you dereference it is not essential functionality for this use case; it's an entirely optional bonus. The owner does not need to consider them valid or serve anything at that URL - they just need to not use that URI to indicate a different product. > > As Dan pointed out, it's a low probability event that needs to be > dealt with in an out of band fashion, but it does happen. > > Tom > > On Jul 28, 2012, at 1:36 PM, Dave Caroline wrote: > > > I can see a glaring hole in the URI as a unique identifier > > > > If large corp creates a product and defines the uri as > > http:uri.largecorp.com/steamenginetype1 > <http://uri.largecorp.com/steamenginetype1> > > > > Sells a million but goes bust a while later what of the id > > we now have a dead link breaking the chain > > We only have a dead link for browsers, but the link is not dead > for building a graph of statements. > > Best > Martin > > -------------------------------------------------------- > martin hepp > e-business & web science research group > universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen > > e-mail: hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org <mailto:hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> > phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 <tel:%2B49-%280%2989-6004-4217> > fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 <tel:%2B49-%280%2989-6004-4620> > www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) > http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) > skype: mfhepp > twitter: mfhepp > > Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data! > ================================================================= > * Project Main Page: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ > > > > >
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