- From: Bernard Vatant <bernard.vatant@mondeca.com>
- Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:50:35 +0200
- To: Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@oclc.org>
- Cc: Public Vocabs <public-vocabs@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAK4ZFVFAzEsWCEmumCD5nV0Btd7tA==tfvF7UmgJ9qJbG_7M3g@mail.gmail.com>
Richard A subliminal proposal for a FRBR extension to schema.org ? Best Bernard 2012/8/28 Richard Wallis <richard.wallis@oclc.org> > Hi all, > > There are actually two issues in this thread, that librarians have beenHi > Richard > grappling with for years. That is the difference between the thing (Work) > and the way it is stored/delivered. Often referred to as content vs > carrier. > > Content: book, article, video, image, musical work, audio book, game, etc > > Carrier: CD, DVD, Cassette, Blu-ray, film reel, file, etc. > > And with file there is of course the issue of what file format; mp3, avi, > etc, etc. > > A good test for what is being proposed is to imagine how you would > represent > something such as an audio-book recording, in mp3 file format, on a CD. > > I agree that we should be using standard enumerations of format, mediaType, > etc. as referenced, (remembering that we my want to describe older types > such as 78rpm discs, 8" floppy, discs, and punched tape) but we should take > account of how we would apply them to describe real world things. > > ~Richard. > > > > On 28/08/2012 09:26, "Martin Hepp" <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Without having analyzed all implications I think it might be a good > solution > > to > > > > - create a generic mediaType property in schema.org and > > - represent all media-types that are non-standard IANA types using the > > processes defined in RFC 4288 [1]. > > > > This would allow covering all types that the LRMI use cases will require > while > > using standard IANA codes for all existing ones. > > > > Any objections? Otherwise I would kindly ask Dan to create a respective > issue > > for schema.org. > > > > > > Martin > > > > [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4288 > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Ivan Herman wrote: > > > >> > >> On Aug 28, 2012, at 08:56 , Martin Hepp wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Greg, > >>> Unless we can use official IANA Interner Media Type identifiers > for > >>> all needed types, I would propose a different name and reserve > mediaType for > >>> an also needed property for indicating the Internet Media Types, see > e.g. > >>> > >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_media_type > >>> > >> > >> +1. I think we should avoid confusion and using an accepted IANA term > would > >> really lead to issues... > >> > >> Ivan > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> Martin > >>> On Aug 27, 2012, at 11:34 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello all, > >>>> > >>>> In the work surrounding the creation of LRMI, and doing real world > >>>> markup on hundreds of works (for a proof of concept project) we have > run > >>>> into a need that isn't adequately addressed by the current Schema.org > >>>> specification, and has broader applicability than just learning > >>>> resources (so not appropriate to be included in the LRMI proposed > >>>> extension). > >>>> > >>>> Simply, there is a need for a term that represents the notion of > >>>> mediaType. When marking up hundreds of educational resources from > >>>> publishers we have found this to be a commonly used field. > >>>> > >>>> Some sample values for that field, based on our set of resources, > would > >>>> be: > >>>> - Audio CD > >>>> - Audiotape > >>>> - Calculator > >>>> - CD-I > >>>> - CD-ROM > >>>> - Diskette > >>>> - Duplication Master > >>>> - DVD/ Blu-ray > >>>> - etc > >>>> > >>>> I've cc'ed here Suraiya Suliman who is working on the team that is > >>>> building a tool to mark up these hundreds of learning resources. > >>>> > >>>> Best, > >>>> > >>>> Greg > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Greg Grossmeier > >>>> Education Technology & Policy Coordinator > >>>> twitter: @g_gerg / identi.ca: @greg / skype: greg.grossmeier > >>>> > >>> > >>> -------------------------------------------------------- > >>> martin hepp > >>> e-business & web science research group > >>> universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen > >>> > >>> e-mail: hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org > >>> phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 > >>> fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 > >>> www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) > >>> http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) > >>> skype: mfhepp > >>> twitter: mfhepp > >>> > >>> Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data! > >>> ================================================================= > >>> * Project Main Page: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ---- > >> Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead > >> Home: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ > >> mobile: +31-641044153 > >> FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > martin hepp > > e-business & web science research group > > universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen > > > > e-mail: hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org > > phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 > > fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 > > www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) > > http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) > > skype: mfhepp > > twitter: mfhepp > > > > Check out GoodRelations for E-Commerce on the Web of Linked Data! > > ================================================================= > > * Project Main Page: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- *Bernard Vatant * Vocabularies & Data Engineering Tel : + 33 (0)9 71 48 84 59 Skype : bernard.vatant Blog : the wheel and the hub <http://blog.hubjects.com/> -------------------------------------------------------- *Mondeca** ** * 3 cité Nollez 75018 Paris, France www.mondeca.com Follow us on Twitter : @mondecanews <http://twitter.com/#%21/mondecanews>
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