- From: Joe Andrieu <joe@legreq.com>
- Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:11:10 -0700
- To: public-veres-one@w3.org
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+1 On Sun, Aug 5, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Adam Lake wrote: > ** > *The Veres One Community Group is currently discussing the topic of > where to incorporate the Veres One Foundation. We would like to make > this decision before we go into production. The original proposal was > to incorporate in the US because it is the most cost effective and > presents the least unknowns for those overseeing the incorporation > process. Once incorporated, we would then move the Veres One > Foundation operations to Switzerland once the Foundation’s cash on > hand hit a particular threshold. In response to this proposal, several > other countries were mentioned as candidates for incorporation. The > following details are my findings and analysis to date. *> * * > **UPDATED PROPOSAL*: After doing more research into the various > country options for incorporation my proposal has changed somewhat. I > propose that we incorporate in Canada to start with and leave the next > country of incorporation more open ended. Canada may end up being a > good long term home for the Veres One Foundation. The CG and the Board > can decide where, when, and if the Veres One Foundation should migrate > to another jurisdiction at a later date.*> * * > *Overall, it was not particularly easy to discover the requirements to > incorporate as a Foundation in the various counties identified as good > candidates by the group. I have included data points that I was able > to acquire.*> * * > *I believe it is important to note that while Veres One is a nonprofit > that it is also a lean startup. Cost effectiveness and simplicity are > critical in the early stages. Achieving traction and sufficient > revenue to grow is the first phase. Once Veres One achieves traction > and a stable base of revenue, the community and the Board can always > decide to migrate operations and incorporate in a more preferable > jurisdiction. *> * * > *It would be ideal for Veres One to move forward with incorporation as > soon as possible as not to miss the target of going into production by > the end of Q3 2018. It is also imperative that Veres One become an > independent organization and that decision making authority related to > governance be separated from Digital Bazaar.*> * * > *The country of incorporation provides a legal framework for the > organization to operate but it does not have a lot of weight in > shaping the character of the organization. The Community, Advisors, > the Board, and the Foundation’s governing principles shape the > character of the organization. While the country of incorporation is > important it is not likely to determine the success of the project.*> * * > *Following are the notes on the costs and considerations for > incorporating in each country mentioned. Note, all cash values are > in USD.*> * > * > **Canada** > * * > **Costs: *Startup, $5K-10K, more likely closer to $5K, with assistance > from an Canadian law firm.*> * * > *Operating, $5.5 - $7.8K at most for first year, less after that > because we will better understand the compliance requirements and > won’t need as much legal advisement.*> * * > **Tax Rates: *Tax Exempt, but we can’t issue tax receipts to > individuals. Organizations and foreign foundations can still donate to > the Veres One Foundation and write the donation off of their taxable > income. *> * * > **Familiarity: *Familiar, we have a point of contact and an advising > law firm.*> * * > **Neutral: *Yes* > * * > **Stability: *Excellent* > * * > **Human Rights: *Excellent* > * * > **Pros: *One of the positives of starting in Canada vs the US is that > we may want to continue operations there, whereas if we incorporate in > the US we expect to later transfer operations from the US to > Switzerland or some other country.*> * * > **Cons: *$2K-$7K more to incorporate and $4.5K - $6.8K more to operate > in first year than in the US. *> * * > **United States** > * * > **Costs: *Startup $3K, Operating $1K/year* > * * > **Tax Rates*: Tax Exempt* > * * > **Familiarity: *Very Familiar, fewest unknowns* > * * > **Neutral: *Somewhat* > * * > **Stability: *High, but potentially litigious* > * * > **Human Rights: *Good* > * * > **Pros*: United States is an attractive option because it is familiar > to those that will be incorporating and administering the Veres One > Foundation and because the startup and operating costs are low.*> * * > *Tax exemption is easy to obtain, good for early donations if the > opportunity arises.*> *Political concerns should not affect the Foundation.* > * * > *Incorporating in the US where startup costs are approximately $3K > and operating costs for low revenue foundations are less that $1K > per year.*> * * > **Cons*: The United States is not generally viewed as a neutral > arbiter. There is historical baggage associated regarding governance > of technical infrastructure for the Internet (e.g. ICANN)..*> * > * > **Estonia** > * * > *Costs: Startup, ~$1000, includes drawing up the articles of > association and other documentation as well as state fee, does not > include applicable translations. Operating Costs, $8.4K-$11.3K/year*> * * > **Tax Rates:* 20% VAT, would likely get tax exemption* > * * > **Familiarity:* Somewhat familiar, some unknowns* > * * > **Neutral: *Yes* > * * > **Stability: *Good* > * * > **Human Rights:* Good* > * * > *Estonia is not known for being a neutral country or for its civil > rights but there doesn’t seem to be any red flags or concerns in these > areas either.*> * * > **Pros:* Estonia is increasingly known for its innovation in digital > services including it’s eGovernment and eResidency programs. Veres > One being incorporated in Estonia could increase the chances that the > Estonian government would use Veres One identifiers but country of > incorporation is unlikely to be a significant factor in their > adoption.*> * * > *Incorporation can be settled in a matter of days once all the > paperwork is prepared.*> * * > **Cons: *Tax exemption is likely but not guaranteed.* > * * > *Estonia has not automated, through their eGovernment services, all > aspects of starting and operating a nonprofit Foundation like they > have for for-profit entities. This means that some of the > administrative tasks such as filing certain documents and bookkeeping > would need to be done within Estonia. This results in higher costs > than what was previously estimated when we thought we could start and > operate the Foundation exclusively through their eGovernment > services.*> * * > *If all board members are foreigners, appointment of a contact person > in EE is required.*> * > * > **Switzerland** > * * > **Costs: *Startup, $65K Operations, $10K/year* > * * > **Tax Rates:* Tax Exempt within 6 months* > * * > **Familiarity: *Not particularly familiar but have done a lot of > due diligence and feel comfortable with incorporating here if we > decide to*> * * > **Neutral:* High* > * * > **Stable:* Very* > * * > **Human Rights:* High* > * * > **Pros: *Switzerland is globally viewed as a neutral country and is > home to many international non-profits and UN agencies. Swiss cultural > support for civil society organizations is strong.*> * * > *They have been easy to work with and I feel comfortable executing on > incorporation in Switzerland if and when the Veres One Community > decides that it's the appropriate course of action.*> * * > **Cons: *Swiss incorporation requires $65K USD in startup costs and up > to $10K USD per year in operating costs. This includes $50K for a > capital requirement that could be placed in a Swiss bank account and > used for operations.*> * * > *Swiss incorporation also presents additional regulatory risks since > the Maintainer/Founders (Digital Bazaar) are US-based and the > nonprofit Foundation would be Swiss-based. The risks are minimal and > the additional costs are not astronomical but it would be far more > lean and cost effective to incorporate in the US or Canada, or Estonia > to start with.*> * > * > **Liechtenstein** > * * > **Costs: *N/A* > * * > **Tax Rates: *N/A* > * * > **Familiarity:* Low* > * * > **Neutral: *Good* > * * > **Stable:* Very* > * * > **Human Rights: *Good* > * * > **Pros:* Liechtenstein has a favorable environment for blockchain and > cryptocurrencies.*> * * > **Cons: *It is a monarchy which does not send the right message for a > multistakeholder global public utility.*> * > * > **Iceland** > * * > *I had trouble getting information about Iceland. I could not find > basic details about starting a Foundation in Iceland. The attorneys > that I corresponded with were not willing to provide me with many > details without first giving them a retainer. It does sound like it is > possible to incorporate the Veres One Foundation there but it’s > unclear what value Iceland provides over other countries that would be > worth going through the extra trouble and costs of incorporating > there. *> * > * > **Umbrella Org, Internet Governance Forum or Internet Society** > * * > *The idea of operating the Veres One Foundation under another > foundation, more specifically the Internet Governance Forum and the > Internet Society was mentioned. The advisement I received on this > option was “ whether the Veres One Foundation could be incorporated > under ISOC or the IGF: the answer to the latter is not, as legally > this would not be possible (the IGF has no separate legal entity - it > is a platform convened by the UN Secretary-General). ISOC could be an > option in theory, I suppose, but it would be too mind bogglingly > complex to consider.*> * * > **Multi-country** > * * > *It is an option to incorporate the Veres One Foundation in multiple > countries. This is more of a phase II option.*> ** > > -- Adam Lake Director, Business Development Digital Bazaar Veres.io > 540-285-0083 -- Joe Andrieu, PMP joe@legreq.comLEGENDARY REQUIREMENTS +1(805)705-8651Do what matters. http://legreq.com[1] Links: 1. http://www.legendaryrequirements.com
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