Re: edited TTWG draft charter, VTT?

Hi Silvia,

> No other specification in the history of W3C has had to jump through this many hoops to get to CR.

As far as I know, WebVTT has been held to the same criteria for CR
transition as IMSC (and TTML2).

For better or for worse, the group has collectively spent multiple
hundreds of man-hours closing
issues leading up to the TTML2 CR.

Best,

-- Pierre

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer
<silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
> If there is a decision this group should take, it's to move webvtt to CR. I
> challenge you to get this done rather than throw another process roadblock
> at webvtt.
>
> It's ready and has been for a long time. No other specification in the
> history of W3C has had to jump through this many hoops to get to CR.
>
> All other groups of the W3C have deemed it ready for months of not years.
>
> Do everyone a favour and just decide to move it.
>
> Kind regards,
> Silvia.
>
>
> On Tue., 27 Mar. 2018, 3:16 am Nigel Megitt, <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Not so much an opinion as a restatement - at this point we seem to be in
>> the realm of process. We made the following resolution at TPAC 2016 in
>> Lisbon [1] as proposed by David Singer:
>>
>> > RESOLUTION: If we do not move WebVTT to CR in this Charter period then
>> >we will not include it in any new Charter.
>>
>>
>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2016/09/19-tt-minutes.html#resolution01
>>
>> If there's another way to meet the needs of the folk who want to progress
>> VTT, then one way to satisfy that resolution is to close this line of work
>> in TTWG and remove it from the draft new Charter; I think the Process
>> requires publication as a WG Note in this event. I assume that this does
>> not preclude taking it up again in another WG or other forum.
>>
>> I can't actually see any other ways to satisfy the resolution - are there
>> any?
>>
>> Otherwise we would need to make a new different decision very quickly (and
>> our Decision Policy review period for any decision made now expires after
>> the end of the current Charter, so time is not in favour); before doing
>> that I would ideally like to see some evidence that something has changed
>> to warrant us revisiting it.
>>
>> For tracking purposes, I raised
>> https://github.com/w3c/charter-timed-text/issues/21 on Thursday 22nd
>> March.
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>>
>>
>> On 23/03/2018, 17:21, "David Singer" <singer@mac.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I¹m in debate with Silvia over the progression of VTT.  Do others have
>> >opinions?
>> >
>> >With WhatWG on a firmer footing, much of the original motivation to do a
>> >Rec. has evaporated, and at this point looks like a lot of busy work to
>> >little reward. Are there people who see it differently?
>> >
>> >> On Mar 23, 2018, at 3:16 , Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I have edited the TTWG draft charter with the changes agreed during our
>> >>TTWG telecon.
>> >> Please review the draft charter
>> >>
>> >> https://w3c.github.io/charter-timed-text/Draft-2018-TTWG-Charter.html
>> >>
>> >> Deadline is Monday midnight US coast. I will send the charter on
>> >>tuesday to W3M for approval, and will request a charter extension.
>> >>
>> >> Thierry
>> >>
>> >
>> >David Singer
>> >
>> >singer@mac.com
>> >
>>
>>
>

Received on Monday, 26 March 2018 18:27:43 UTC