W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-tt@w3.org > January 2018

Re: F2f agenda

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 09:33:06 +0000
To: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
CC: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <D674F40D.51BE9%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Hi,

I'm certain I'm the unintended cause of some unresolved WebVTT wide review
comments, and that the number is non-zero. I'm sorry about the
inconvenience that is causing. It is **only** due to resource constraints.
I have prioritised TTML and IMSC work and there has been a huge volume of
that over the past couple of months, which has left me no time to respond
to responses on some of the WebVTT issues I opened (though I did manage to
find a bit of time to look at some of them after TPAC).

For next week's meeting in particular the WG has been very vocal about the
need to close TTML1 and TTML2 issues and prepare documents for transition,
and that has been my focus. Not to say that David hasn't also expressed
the same desire to move WebVTT on.

>From my perspective, I think it is extremely unlikely that we will be able
to reach conclusions on those open WebVTT issues in time to agree to
transition WebVTT to CR during next week's F2F. I will do what I can in
the time available.

I'm not aware of any proposed WebVTT CR Exit Criteria for review, and none
are listed on the wiki page that Silvia linked to. In the past David has
suggested that there may be some features that will be marked as At Risk -
is that still the case?

Kind regards,

Nigel


On 05/01/2018, 05:22, "Pierre-Anthony Lemieux" <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:

>Hi Silvia,
>
>Got it. So, no formal objections and/or unresolved wide-review
>comments as far you know?
>
>I could not find the following information at either [1] or the wiki
>page. Should I look somewhere else?
>
>- documentation of substantive changes
>- how adequate implementation experience will be demonstrated
>- list of organizations that should be informed of the transition
>
>Best,
>
>-- Pierre
>
>On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:41 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
><silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Pierre,
>>
>> I will leave the details to David, but it's all available at
>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/WebVTT_Wide_Review .
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Silvia.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 4:23 AM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
>><pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Silvia,
>>>
>>> Thanks. Can you provide, in preparation for the meeting, documentation
>>> showing that all requirements for advancement [1] have been satisfied?
>>>
>>> [1] https://www.w3.org/2017/Process-20170301/#candidate-rec
>>>
>>> Things that come to mind include:
>>>
>>> - formal objections
>>> - record of disposition of wide-review comments
>>> - documentation of substantive changes
>>> - how adequate implementation experience will be demonstrated
>>> - list of organizations that should be informed of the transition
>>>
>>> Since WebVTT is not regularly discussed during TTWG telecons, I am
>>> trying to prevent surprises during the meeting -- we have already very
>>> little time to cover TTML1, TTML2 and IMSC1.1.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -- Pierre
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:07 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> FAIK we just need TTWG approval to make that transition.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Silvia.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
>>>><pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>>>>>> VTT CR transition
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the specific action(s) requested of TTWG and its members?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:49 AM, Nigel Megitt
>>>>><nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> For those not watching the wiki page
>>>>>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/jan2018f2f therešs a new agenda
>>>>>>topic
>>>>>> recently added by David Singer, covering VTT transition to CR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nigel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk
>>>>>> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain
>>>>>>personal
>>>>>> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated.
>>>>>> If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system.
>>>>>> Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in
>>>>>>reliance
>>>>>> on it and notify the sender immediately.
>>>>>> Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received.
>>>>>> Further communication will signify your consent to this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------------------
>>>>>



-----------------------------
http://www.bbc.co.uk
This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and
may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated.
If you have received it in
error, please delete it from your system.
Do not use, copy or disclose the
information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender
immediately.
Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails
sent or received.
Further communication will signify your consent to
this.
-----------------------------
Received on Friday, 5 January 2018 09:33:44 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Friday, 5 January 2018 09:33:45 UTC