Re: Call for Consensus to publish WebVTT as a Candidate Recommendation

Yes, we can rename "technical" to "substantive".

Cheers,
Silvia.

On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
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> On 30/03/2018 22:21, David Singer wrote:
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>>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 13:12 , Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Silvia,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html
>>>
>>>
>>> The document shows no changes.
>>
>>
>> Thierry?
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>
> I see editorial and technical changes.
> Though I don't really know what a technical change is ; Is it substantive
> change ?
>
> Thierry
>
>>
>>>
>>>> Note that in WebVTT we put the snapshots into an "archive" directory
>>>> rather than keeping additional branches open.
>>>
>>>
>>> No need to keep a branch open: a git tag is sufficient (ideally
>>> accompanied by a github release)... but ok.
>>>
>>>> About that extra paragraph: it's not up to me to change it - it was
>>>> provided like that by Thierry.
>>>
>>>
>>> So... you do not object to removing the paragraph?
>>>
>>>> This document is governed by the 1 March 2017 W3C Process Document.
>>>
>>>
>>> The process is out-of-date:
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/2018/Process-20180201/
>>
>>
>> Thierry?
>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> -- Pierre
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Pierre,
>>>>
>>>> That link is here:
>>>>
>>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html
>>>> .
>>>> Also the diff is here:
>>>>
>>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/diff.html
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>> These will be correct when published to the official W3C TR site
>>>> because they are relative links. The <base> URL was introduced by
>>>> htmlpreview which is why they are not rendering directly in the
>>>> subdirectory.
>>>>
>>>> Note that in WebVTT we put the snapshots into an "archive" directory
>>>> rather than keeping additional branches open. That reduces confusion
>>>> in the GitHub repository between what is a branch with data for PR and
>>>> what is the actual committed content. I still believe it is correct
>>>> since work on the specification is done by both. That this snapshot is
>>>> being processed by the TTWG should not make a difference to this
>>>> statement, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Silvia.
>>>>
>>>> About that extra paragraph: it's not up to me to change it - it was
>>>> provided like that by Thierry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
>>>> <pal@sandflow.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Silvia,
>>>>>
>>>>> This does not seem right:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/webvtt/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, can the following be removed since the specification is now
>>>>> managed by TTWG:
>>>>>
>>>>> """
>>>>> Work on this specification is being undertaken both in the Web Media
>>>>> Text Tracks Community Group as well as in the W3C Timed Text Working
>>>>> Group. The latter group works towards a W3C Recommendation for
>>>>> reference purposes with interoperability requirements, while the
>>>>> former is a Draft Community Group Report that continues to evolve.
>>>>> """
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer
>>>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David jumped the gun with his email a little - Thierry and I first
>>>>>> needed to land that pull request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find the proper link at
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/Overview.html
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>> Silvia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:43 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thierry wrote the status of this document, not me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think he also has a better URL for it, but I can’t find it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:23 , Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi David et al.,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This document is not hosted on the W3C github repo? Why not simply
>>>>>>>> create a CR branch at https://github.com/w3c/webvtt ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, the following paragraph should be removed since this
>>>>>>>> specification is managed by TTWG exclusively at this point -- the CG
>>>>>>>> has no control over it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No formal control, indeed, but we are trying (and so far succeeding)
>>>>>>> to avoid forks and differences, so I prefer to keep the paragraph.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> """Work on this specification is being undertaken both in the Web
>>>>>>>> Media Text Tracks Community Group as well as in the W3C Timed Text
>>>>>>>> Working Group. The latter group works towards a W3C Recommendation
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> reference purposes with interoperability requirements, while the
>>>>>>>> former is a Draft Community Group Report that continues to
>>>>>>>> evolve."""
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- Pierre
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 9:16 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [sending again as plain text in case the HTML format was hiding a
>>>>>>>>> spurious link]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> following this week's call giving conceptual approval pending the
>>>>>>>>> preparation of the CR document, and the preparation by Thierry and Silvia of
>>>>>>>>> the CR draft at
>>>>>>>>> <https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/silviapfeiffer/webvtt-spec/blob/f8da4f27205ed2c11b7dedbf46d91b363eaafe9b/archives/2018-04-15/Overview.html>
>>>>>>>>> is now ready for us to request transition to Candidate Recommendation: I
>>>>>>>>> think that the obvious typo in “Diff from previous” has been or will
>>>>>>>>> imminently be fixed. This email is a call for consensus to make the
>>>>>>>>> transition based on this version of the document; barring any objections
>>>>>>>>> within the WG's Decision Policy period of 10 working days as defined in the
>>>>>>>>> Charter, I will ask for this transition request to be made.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> (Thierry/Silvia, if there is a better link, let us know)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For transition request purposes, assuming no objections, I will
>>>>>>>>> record this as a resolution in the minutes of the next call.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please review the document and if possible confirm that you agree
>>>>>>>>> with this resolution; silence will be taken as acceptance, but an explicit
>>>>>>>>> approval would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you spot any problems please raise issues as normal on the
>>>>>>>>> GitHub repository. We can make minor editorial fixes such as typo fixes any
>>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone who contributed to the push to get to this state
>>>>>>>>> over the last few months: this represents a lot of hard work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David Singer
>>>>>>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>
>> David Singer
>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>
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