- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2018 18:04:07 +1000
- To: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
- Cc: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>, Public TTWG List <public-tt@w3.org>, Philippe Le Hegaret <plh@w3.org>
Yes, we can rename "technical" to "substantive". Cheers, Silvia. On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:19 PM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote: > > > On 30/03/2018 22:21, David Singer wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 13:12 , Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Silvia, >>> >>>> >>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html >>> >>> >>> The document shows no changes. >> >> >> Thierry? > > > I see editorial and technical changes. > Though I don't really know what a technical change is ; Is it substantive > change ? > > Thierry > >> >>> >>>> Note that in WebVTT we put the snapshots into an "archive" directory >>>> rather than keeping additional branches open. >>> >>> >>> No need to keep a branch open: a git tag is sufficient (ideally >>> accompanied by a github release)... but ok. >>> >>>> About that extra paragraph: it's not up to me to change it - it was >>>> provided like that by Thierry. >>> >>> >>> So... you do not object to removing the paragraph? >>> >>>> This document is governed by the 1 March 2017 W3C Process Document. >>> >>> >>> The process is out-of-date: >>> >>> https://www.w3.org/2018/Process-20180201/ >> >> >> Thierry? >> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> -- Pierre >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer >>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Pierre, >>>> >>>> That link is here: >>>> >>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html >>>> . >>>> Also the diff is here: >>>> >>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/diff.html >>>> . >>>> >>>> These will be correct when published to the official W3C TR site >>>> because they are relative links. The <base> URL was introduced by >>>> htmlpreview which is why they are not rendering directly in the >>>> subdirectory. >>>> >>>> Note that in WebVTT we put the snapshots into an "archive" directory >>>> rather than keeping additional branches open. That reduces confusion >>>> in the GitHub repository between what is a branch with data for PR and >>>> what is the actual committed content. I still believe it is correct >>>> since work on the specification is done by both. That this snapshot is >>>> being processed by the TTWG should not make a difference to this >>>> statement, IMHO. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> Silvia. >>>> >>>> About that extra paragraph: it's not up to me to change it - it was >>>> provided like that by Thierry. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux >>>> <pal@sandflow.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Silvia, >>>>> >>>>> This does not seem right: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/w3c/webvtt/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/changes.html >>>>> >>>>> Also, can the following be removed since the specification is now >>>>> managed by TTWG: >>>>> >>>>> """ >>>>> Work on this specification is being undertaken both in the Web Media >>>>> Text Tracks Community Group as well as in the W3C Timed Text Working >>>>> Group. The latter group works towards a W3C Recommendation for >>>>> reference purposes with interoperability requirements, while the >>>>> former is a Draft Community Group Report that continues to evolve. >>>>> """ >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> -- Pierre >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer >>>>> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> David jumped the gun with his email a little - Thierry and I first >>>>>> needed to land that pull request. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can find the proper link at >>>>>> >>>>>> https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/blob/gh-pages/archives/2018-04-15/Overview.html >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>> Silvia. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:43 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thierry wrote the status of this document, not me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think he also has a better URL for it, but I can’t find it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2018, at 9:23 , Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi David et al., >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This document is not hosted on the W3C github repo? Why not simply >>>>>>>> create a CR branch at https://github.com/w3c/webvtt ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, the following paragraph should be removed since this >>>>>>>> specification is managed by TTWG exclusively at this point -- the CG >>>>>>>> has no control over it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No formal control, indeed, but we are trying (and so far succeeding) >>>>>>> to avoid forks and differences, so I prefer to keep the paragraph. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> """Work on this specification is being undertaken both in the Web >>>>>>>> Media Text Tracks Community Group as well as in the W3C Timed Text >>>>>>>> Working Group. The latter group works towards a W3C Recommendation >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> reference purposes with interoperability requirements, while the >>>>>>>> former is a Draft Community Group Report that continues to >>>>>>>> evolve.""" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- Pierre >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 9:16 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [sending again as plain text in case the HTML format was hiding a >>>>>>>>> spurious link] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> following this week's call giving conceptual approval pending the >>>>>>>>> preparation of the CR document, and the preparation by Thierry and Silvia of >>>>>>>>> the CR draft at >>>>>>>>> <https://htmlpreview.github.io/?https://github.com/silviapfeiffer/webvtt-spec/blob/f8da4f27205ed2c11b7dedbf46d91b363eaafe9b/archives/2018-04-15/Overview.html> >>>>>>>>> is now ready for us to request transition to Candidate Recommendation: I >>>>>>>>> think that the obvious typo in “Diff from previous” has been or will >>>>>>>>> imminently be fixed. This email is a call for consensus to make the >>>>>>>>> transition based on this version of the document; barring any objections >>>>>>>>> within the WG's Decision Policy period of 10 working days as defined in the >>>>>>>>> Charter, I will ask for this transition request to be made. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> (Thierry/Silvia, if there is a better link, let us know) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For transition request purposes, assuming no objections, I will >>>>>>>>> record this as a resolution in the minutes of the next call. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please review the document and if possible confirm that you agree >>>>>>>>> with this resolution; silence will be taken as acceptance, but an explicit >>>>>>>>> approval would be much appreciated. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you spot any problems please raise issues as normal on the >>>>>>>>> GitHub repository. We can make minor editorial fixes such as typo fixes any >>>>>>>>> time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks to everyone who contributed to the push to get to this state >>>>>>>>> over the last few months: this represents a lot of hard work. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> kind regards, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> David >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> David Singer >>>>>>> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc. >>>>>>> >> >> David Singer >> Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc. >> >
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