- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 08:35:40 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D2412F37.29757%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
All, I remain concerned about the limit of maximum number of simultaneously active regions in IMSC 1. A colleague has scanned the BBC's archive of subtitles and discovered one file that would require 4 regions, and about 0.01% of files require 3 regions. I attach a screenshot from one of the 3 region files. It is admittedly rather old and not representative of present day practices however when we repeat the programme we reuse those original subtitles. An additional use case for more regions is when the subtitle file contains an accessible version of on-screen text ("object based broadcasting"), for example a combination of the hard of hearing or translation subtitles, clock, news ticker, "Breaking News" caption, contributor name and job title etc., as currently visible on rolling news channels e.g. BBC News. In that scenario it would be easy to exceed the 4 region limit - I got to 5 or 6 just then without any special cases. Moving to this method of presentation is in my opinion both an area of research and a direction of travel. My conclusion from looking at this is that although the current incidence of subtitles needing 4 regions is extremely low, at least in UK English language BBC content, the "safety margin" present with a 4 region limit is too small and it is likely that a 4 region limit on IMSC is too constraining of future possible uses and presentation styles. My preferred proposal for addressing this is simply to remove the simultaneous region limit altogether, since I do not believe there's a strong implementation case for having it, especially when rendering complexity is already tackled by the HRM. My less preferred proposal, if there is a genuine reason for needing such a limit, is to increase the value from 4 to 10, to allow for some additional safety margin. Kind regards, Nigel ----------------------------- http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. -----------------------------
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