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Re: [minutes] TTWG call june 18th 2015

From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 17:02:19 -0600
Message-ID: <CACQ=j+fbhpS=YowDsJ=emXCSJXgoEZ64GF3OPjnL2tiHd6O_fA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Cc: Public TTWG List <public-tt@w3.org>, Thierry Michel <tmichel@w3.org>
TextTrackCue has no HTML content or rendering semantics; HTMLCue would be a
sub-interface of TextTrackCue, like VTTCue;

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
wrote:

> So how is that different from TextTrackCue?
>
> Best Regards,
> Silvia.
> On 19 Jun 2015 4:22 am, "Glenn Adams" <glenn@skynav.com> wrote:
>
>> Technically, with HTMLCue, a browser would not need to natively support
>> any particular cue format. But the main use case is to support cue formats
>> that are not natively supported. This allows an author supplied JS
>> implementation that supports an otherwise supported cue format.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <
>> silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Quick question: what problem is the HTMLCue supposed to address? I seem
>>> to have missed any mention or discussion of it before today.
>>>
>>> Thanks for clarifying.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Silvia.
>>> On 19 Jun 2015 1:07 am, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> The minutes of the TTWG  Teleconference dated 2015-06-18 are now
>>>> available at
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-tt-minutes.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Also find these minutes in a text version following, for your
>>>> convenience.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Thierry Michel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    [1]W3C
>>>>
>>>>       [1] http://www.w3.org/
>>>>
>>>>                                - DRAFT -
>>>>
>>>>                 Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
>>>>
>>>> 18 Jun 2015
>>>>
>>>>    See also: [2]IRC log
>>>>
>>>>       [2] http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-tt-irc
>>>>
>>>> Attendees
>>>>
>>>>    Present
>>>>           pal, thierry, glenn
>>>>
>>>>    Regrets
>>>>    Chair
>>>>           pal
>>>>
>>>>    Scribe
>>>>           pal
>>>>
>>>> Contents
>>>>
>>>>      * [3]Topics
>>>>          1. [4]Action Items
>>>>          2. [5]Issues
>>>>          3. [6]IMSC1 Status
>>>>          4. [7]HTML Cue
>>>>      * [8]Summary of Action Items
>>>>      __________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Date: 18 June 2015
>>>>
>>>>    <glenn> +Present glenn
>>>>
>>>> Action Items
>>>>
>>>>    [9]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364
>>>>
>>>>       [9] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/364
>>>>
>>>>    Glenn: no update
>>>>
>>>>    [10]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383
>>>>
>>>>      [10] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/383
>>>>
>>>>    [11]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384
>>>>
>>>>      [11] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/384
>>>>
>>>>    [12]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386
>>>>
>>>>      [12] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/386
>>>>
>>>>    [13]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404
>>>>
>>>>      [13] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/404
>>>>
>>>>    Glenn: no update
>>>>
>>>>    [14]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/387
>>>>
>>>>      [14] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/387
>>>>
>>>>    pal: started the process but not done
>>>>
>>>>    [15]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/388
>>>>
>>>>      [15] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/388
>>>>
>>>>    tmichel: initial draft completed. bugs remain. welcomes review
>>>>    and feedback.
>>>>
>>>>    [16]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396
>>>>
>>>>      [16] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396
>>>>
>>>>    tmichel: wiki setup at
>>>>    [17]http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>>>    ... some dates are missing perhaps
>>>>    ... so not clear if all comments were on the FPWD
>>>>
>>>>      [17] http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>>>
>>>>    [18]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/405
>>>>
>>>>      [18] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/405
>>>>
>>>>    discuss in agenda 3
>>>>
>>>> Issues
>>>>
>>>>    [19]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/369
>>>>
>>>>      [19] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/369
>>>>
>>>>    no objections to resolution as implemented
>>>>
>>>>    <glenn> close issue 369
>>>>
>>>>    close ISSUE-369
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-369.
>>>>
>>>>    [20]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/390
>>>>
>>>>      [20] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/390
>>>>
>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>
>>>>    close ISSUE-390
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-390.
>>>>
>>>>    [21]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/392
>>>>
>>>>      [21] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/392
>>>>
>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>
>>>>    close ISSUE-392
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-392.
>>>>
>>>>    [22]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/393
>>>>
>>>>      [22] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/393
>>>>
>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>
>>>>    close ISSUE-393
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-393.
>>>>
>>>>    [23]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/394
>>>>
>>>>      [23] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/394
>>>>
>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>
>>>>    [24]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/394
>>>>
>>>>      [24] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/394
>>>>
>>>>    close ISSUE-394
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-394.
>>>>
>>>>    no objection to proposed resolution
>>>>
>>>>    close ISSUE-394
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-394.
>>>>
>>>>    close ISSUE-395
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Closed ISSUE-395.
>>>>
>>>>    pal: no suggested topics raised on open issues, moving to next
>>>>    agenda item
>>>>
>>>> IMSC1 Status
>>>>
>>>>    [25]https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/405
>>>>
>>>>      [25] https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/405
>>>>
>>>>    Thierry: proposed initial draft at
>>>>    [26]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2015Jun/0045
>>>>    .html
>>>>
>>>>      [26]
>>>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2015Jun/0045.html
>>>>
>>>>    pal: since the letter is intended in part to implementers that
>>>>    are not W3C members,
>>>>    ... what about introducing W3C, TTWG, how the results will be
>>>>    used, etc...
>>>>    ... might be an opportunity for W3C to reach out to new members
>>>>
>>>>    thierry: respondents can choose to remain confidential
>>>>    separately at the TTWG level and implementation report
>>>>    ... nigel asked what the final date is for the questionnaire...
>>>>    we should put a date like October to drive responses... we can
>>>>    always change the date
>>>>
>>>>    pal: October sounds fine
>>>>    ... October it is
>>>>
>>>> HTML Cue
>>>>
>>>>    atai2: re: ACTION-401, kicked-off discussion with glenn, pal,
>>>>    Erik Lindström and nigel
>>>>    ... proposal is to prepare strawman for October TPAC
>>>>
>>>>    glenn: HTML WG uses "extension specifications" to extend HTML
>>>>    ... suggest working within HTML WG directly
>>>>    ... the conversion of TTML and WebVTT to HTML is separate from
>>>>    definition of HTMLCue
>>>>
>>>>    pal: whether the strawman is published as a TTWG Note, liaison,
>>>>    wiki page, etc... it should follow the extension specification
>>>>
>>>>    atai2: initial draft available end of July
>>>>
>>>>    <atai2> I seem to be disconnected from the audio
>>>>
>>>>    <atai2> I will dial in again
>>>>
>>>>    <scribe> ACTION: atai2 to follow on creating a strawman re:
>>>>    HTML Cue extension specification [recorded in
>>>>    [27]http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-tt-minutes.html#action01]
>>>>
>>>>    <trackbot> Created ACTION-406 - Follow on creating a strawman
>>>>    re: html cue extension specification [on Andreas Tai - due
>>>>    2015-06-25].
>>>>
>>>> Summary of Action Items
>>>>
>>>>    [NEW] ACTION: atai2 to follow on creating a strawman re: HTML
>>>>    Cue extension specification [recorded in
>>>>    [28]http://www.w3.org/2015/06/18-tt-minutes.html#action01]
>>>>
>>>>    [End of minutes]
>>>>      __________________________________________________________
>>>>
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