- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 08:01:36 +1000
- To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Cc: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, W3C Public TTWG <public-tt@w3.org>
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > > > On 10/06/2015 01:12, "Silvia Pfeiffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 7:19 AM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 13:09 , Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> [not sure why this thread suddenly included the TTWG - it was merely >>>> on the github bug before for WebVTT] >>> >>> I was hoping to raise its visibility, in that I knew that my idea >>>(below, critiqued) was weak, but maybe someone else had a better idea… >> >>If somebody has a better idea for a term that an offset from the top >>for describing the positioning of a box of lines from the top of the >>video viewport, that would be helpful. I still believe "offset" works >>better than "position" for this case. > > I thought part of the problem we are trying to solve is that the offset > direction is dependent on the writing direction, so the offset might be > from the left for vertical writing or the top for horizontal writing. Yes it is. I used "top" for simplicity in the above description - it was indeed incomplete. > That's why I proposed the terms inline and block. If that's not the case > then why don't we just use "position-horizontal" and "position-vertical" > respectively? The cause for the change was that using the word "position" for both directions wass really confusing. I've amended words in a new pull request but stuck with the word "offset" since it clearly explains that we are offsetting from the video viewport edge. I believe the new wording is actually really clear. Regards, Silvia. >>>> I don't think those concepts are what we're actually dealing with. >>>> Leading is the whitespace between lines >>>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leading), >>> >>> well, or the whitespace before a paragraph, which is closer this >>>meaning. It has at least the advantage of being in the block >>>progression dimension. >> >>I've not seen "leading" used for whitespace offset in block >>progression. "Line leading" reads a bit harder than "line offset", >>too. >> >> >>>> not the distance from the top >>>> of the page (which is what our "line" setting provides). Indent may >>>> have worked, but we're already using "position”. >>> >>> yup. major name changes might be confusing… >> >>We should stick with "line" and "position" as the names, but we're >>after better words for describing what they mean. > > I'd be happy to change the names - I think they're where the confusion > begins for newcomers. Accepted it would also create confusion for those > who are used to the current terminology. > > Nigel > >> >>Thanks, >>Silvia. > > > > ----------------------------- > http://www.bbc.co.uk > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and > may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. > If you have received it in > error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the > information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender > immediately. > Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails > sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to > this. > -----------------------------
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