- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 11:10:50 +1000
- To: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Cc: Andreas Tai <tai@irt.de>, Public TTWG List <public-tt@w3.org>
That would indeed show that there is browser dev interest. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: > Rather than approaching them with nothing in hand (other than a spec or > plans for a spec), it would be better to do an implementation of the > extension in Chrome, Webkit, or Mozilla. Then it would be easy to show the > triviality of the implementation as well has having a platform to > demonstrate utility of the feature. > > On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Have you approached browser developers yet and got their thoughts on the >> matter? This was an idea discussed in the html WG in the past and didn't get >> very far. >> >> Best Regards, >> Silvia. >> >> On 13 Aug 2015 6:06 am, "Andreas Tai" <tai@irt.de> wrote: >>> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> One open task I had was to draft a summary for the HTMLCue proposal. This >>> summary is intended as a base for discussion with other standard groups or >>> with developers from the browser communities. >>> >>> The proposal could be discussed in tomorrows TTWG meeting (see agenda >>> topic 9a) >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Andreas >>> >>> """ >>> --------------------- >>> What? >>> --------------------- >>> We propose to specify an implementation of the text track cue API where >>> the format of the cue data is HTML. The "cue type" is called in the >>> following HTMLCue. >>> >>> --------------------- >>> Why? >>> --------------------- >>> Different file formats are used for the distribution of subtitles and >>> captions in the HTML ecosystem. Currently only WebVTT has a defined Cue >>> Concept that is implemented by Web Browsers. It would extend the reach of >>> accessible content a lot if the text track API can be used by any subtitle >>> format. >>> >>> Options for a solution: >>> >>> 1) Mapping of other formats to VTTCues >>> Although this maybe a short-term option a lossless mapping is often not >>> feasible and requires considerable knowledge of the source and the >>> destination format. It would also need continuous alignment of each of the >>> subtitle formats with WebVTT and vice versa. >>> >>> 2) Define a cue type for every subtitle format >>> Even if these different cue type specifications would exist it is >>> unlikely that browsers will support all different cue "specializations". >>> >>> 3) Define a generic cue type >>> This cue type should be easy to implement by browsers and it should be >>> possible to map the semantic the scope of different existing formats. >>> >>> We think an HTML cue as a variant of the third option is the best >>> solution. >>> >>> The strength of a generic HTML cue type is that, assuming that the way >>> to render these cues is clearly defined somewhere, basically any kind of >>> subtitle format that can be translated into HTML could be supported, as long >>> as the browser, a client side JS or a server based solution does the >>> translation work somewhere. One way to make use of the doc fragment is to >>> place the doc fragment as an overlay over the video. >>> >>> The HTMLCue could be defined as HTML extension. The HTML Spec itself does >>> not need to be changed. >>> >>> It may be worth noting that under the hood some browsers already >>> translate WebVTT to HTML and some client side JS solutions translate TTML to >>> HTML. >>> >>> => Next Steps? >>> We would appreciate to hear your opinion about this so that this activity >>> can be started during TPAC in October 2015. >>> """ >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> Andreas Tai >>> Production Systems Television IRT - Institut fuer Rundfunktechnik GmbH >>> R&D Institute of ARD, ZDF, DRadio, ORF and SRG/SSR >>> Floriansmuehlstrasse 60, D-80939 Munich, Germany >>> >>> Phone: +49 89 32399-389 | Fax: +49 89 32399-200 >>> http: www.irt.de | Email: tai@irt.de >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> registration court& managing director: >>> Munich Commercial, RegNo. B 5191 >>> Dr. Klaus Illgner-Fehns >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> >
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