- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 15:22:46 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CFABBB21.1E773%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. I don't expect we can complete this agenda within the allocated period!
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Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chair: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: [to assign during meeting]
Regrets:
Activity since last meeting: MPEG liaison re codecs, major update to profile related material (change proposal 12), IMSC issues raised
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. MIME codecs parameter is highest priority
2. Profiles and features (change proposal 12 etc), with extensions/restrictions etc as recently added,
3. Geneva F2F,
4. Change proposal 2,
5. Raised issues,
6. I can't believe we'll get this far.
And stop when time runs out – I'm happy to set and impose time limits on these topics if members would like to take that approach.
Agenda+ MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter
This is scheduled for a major discussion for this topic since all main contributors will hopefully attend.
ISSUE-305<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names OPEN Register of TTML profiles and short names<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305> 2014-05-01 1 Timed Text Working Group<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/>
ISSUE-280<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280/edit>
nested-profiles OPEN Add ability to define a profile from multiple profiles.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280> 2013-09-06 TTML2 0
ACTION-284<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284/edit> open Create the registry page<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01
ACTION-290<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290/edit> open Describe the history for how we got to the signalling needed for mpeg that came from dece for issue-305.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290> Mike Dolan 2014-05-29
Liaison in mail archive at [1] and text reproduced in ACTION-282. Response at [2].
Agenda+ F2F planning
Placeholder for F2F diarised for Sep 16 & 17 to be hosted by EBU in Geneva. Wiki page for this meeting is at [3]. Agenda discussion.
What do potential attendees feel about fees for this meeting, to cover the cost of lunch?
Agenda+ Action items pending review
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-232<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/232>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/232/edit> pending review Consider also defining @validation on ttp:profile, in addition to (override) tt:tt<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/232> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-254<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/254>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/254/edit> pending review Add errata note for ttml1 pointing at constraint in smil prohibiting dur of zero, add normative text to ttml2<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/254> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01 zero duration<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/299>
ACTION-291<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/291>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/291/edit> pending review Find the related issue that describes the need to restrict or extend individual profile features<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/291> Nigel Megitt 2014-05-29
Agenda+ Action items overdue and due next week
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-207<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207/edit> open Add round-down clarification to "closest" language, see issue-259<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/207> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-234<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234/edit> open Explore box-decoration-break in response to issue-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-236<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236/edit> open Review consistent use of "root temporal extent" in both ttml 2 and ttml 1 se<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-258<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258/edit> open Work with pal to resolve edits needed for issue-259 comments<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/258> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-285<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285/edit> open Implement proposed errata in issue-304<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01 Non-Standard Unqualified Attributes<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304>
ACTION-286<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286/edit> open Send an email to public-tt describing the ttv hosting site at w3c<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01
ACTION-287<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287/edit> open Elaborate on wording in §4 on namespace extension in ttml2 and as an errata to ttml1<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287> Glenn Adams 2014-05-08
Agenda+ Issues discussed and raised over the past week (selected subset)
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-199<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/199>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/199/edit> CLOSED timeExpression to video frame calculation is unclear in some cases<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/199> 2013-01-09 TTML 1.0 0
ISSUE-230<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/230>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/230/edit>
Forced display OPEN Forced display<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/230> 2013-05-30 TTML2 0
ISSUE-263<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263/edit> PENDING REVIEW profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263> 2013-07-17 TTML Simple Delivery Profile for Closed Captions (US) 0
ISSUE-305<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names PENDING REVIEW Register of TTML profiles and short names<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305> 2014-05-01 0
ISSUE-309<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309/edit>
Image profile fails WCAG 1.2 OPEN Image profile needs to permit text equivalent<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/309> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-310<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310/edit>
progressivelyDecodable needs hierarchical definition OPEN Forward reference rule doesn't take into account child elements<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-312<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312/edit>
forcedDisplay should be in ttm OPEN forcedDisplay attribute is metadata so should be in ttm not tts namespace<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-317<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317/edit>
IMSC should not require frame alignment RAISED IMSC should not require frame alignment<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/317> 2014-05-22 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-318<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/318>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/318/edit>
HRM glyph copy assumes no sub-pixel positioning PENDING REVIEW Hypothetical Render Model glyph copy assumes no sub-pixel positioning<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/318> 2014-05-22 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-319<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319/edit>
HRM should be a processor compliance test RAISED HRM should be a processor compliance test and allow different levels of complexity for different use cases<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319> 2014-05-23 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-320<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/320>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/320/edit>
Is normative SMPTE 2052 reference okay? RAISED Is normative SMPTE 2052 reference okay?<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/320> 2014-05-23 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-321<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321/edit> RAISED typo - s/ttp:feature/ttp:extension/ in 5th paragraph of 6.1.5<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/321> 2014-05-24 TTML 1.0 (Editorial) 0
ISSUE-306<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306/edit>
Fractional time expressions in N.2 media timeBase RAISED Appendix N.2 omits fractional time expressions<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/306> 2014-05-02 TTML 1.0 0
ISSUE-313<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313/edit>
Presented Region is informative only RAISED Presented Region section is informative only<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/313> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-314<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314/edit>
Temporally active is not defined for regions RAISED Temporally active is not defined for regions<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314> 2014-05-21 TTML 1.0 0
ISSUE-315<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315/edit>
Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint RAISED Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review
Change Proposal 12 [6] has not been updated but Glenn has made changes that address many of the issues in there [7].
Can we agree to set the default @validationAction to "warn" and make it a recommendation to the validator rather than mandatory?
Change Proposal 2 [5] has been implemented and has been pending review for over 1 month
Can we mark as CLOSED – IMPLEMENTED?
Change Proposal Index is at [4].
Which Change Proposals would owners like to progress next? There are 20 open CPs.
Timeline updated in 13th Mar meeting:
January-March: Clean up and complete CPs
April-July: Draft, iterate and edit solutions to CP issues
August: Last Call
Agenda+ AOB
References
[1] MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0005.html
[2] W3C response to MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0025.html
[3] Geneva F2F meeting https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/geneva2014
[4] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
[5] Change Proposal 2 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
[6] Change Proposal 12 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal012
[7] Glenn's email re major update to profile related material http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014May/0111.html
Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
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