{minutes} TTWG Meeting 13/3/2014

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                Timed Text Working Group Teleconference

13 Mar 2014

   See also: [2]IRC log

      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/03/13-tt-irc


Attendees

   Present
          pal, glenn, nigel, tmichel, plh, jdsmith

   Regrets
          none

   Chair
          nigel

   Scribe
          nigel

Contents

     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]Charter
         2. [5]Action Items
         3. [6]Change Proposals
         4. [7]AOB
     * [8]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2014

   <scribe> scribeNick: nigel

Charter

Action Items

   action-268?

   <trackbot> action-268 -- Nigel Megitt to Estimate timelines for
   ttml 2 deliberables with glenn -- due 2014-02-27 -- OPEN

   <trackbot>
   [9]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/268


      [9] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/268


   <plh> TTML2 August 2014 LC, Oct 2014 CR, Jan 2015 PR, Feb 2015
   Rec.

   nigel: we discussed this on the call last week - see above. Any
   comments?

   plh: PR to Rec could take longer: a minimum of 4 weeks for PR
   review and then 2 further weeks. No change needed in proposed
   timeline. Early Jan PR -> late Feb Rec

   nigel: any objections to adopting this proposal?

   group: no objections

   plh: CR->PR is a bit short because implementations are needed.

   glenn: I anticipate at least one implementation, namely the TTV
   verifier to test all the features of TTML2 to be completed
   quite early in the process. I'll be updating it to verify the
   spec.
   ... then there's the issue of other implementations supporting
   it. TTML2 is a delta on TTML1 so it doesn't entail as many new
   features as we had with TTML1 so I suspect it will
   ... be less time consuming.

   plh: we used Flash, Silverlight and JS implementations for
   TTML1. I don't know if we can rely on Flash or Silverlight this
   time around.

   jdsmith: Silverlight is not under active development. We're
   transitioning to HTML5 so it's not likely that we'll enhance
   TTML in Silverlight.

   plh: Will there be any TTML implementation in IE?

   jdsmith: we're not ready to make any announcements about this.

   nigel: what about the JS implementation?

   plh: I would expect that implementation to be easily
   upgradeable to TTML2

   tmichel: to clarify, what kind of implementation are we
   expecting? Within browsers?

   plh: I don't know. For instance Glenn was mentioning a
   validator - is that a valid implementation? These things are
   debatable.

   glenn: formally because TTML defines both a presentation and
   transformation profile any kind of transformation process is a
   valid implementation so it should count.

   plh: I'm biased as author of the JS implementation.

   glenn: I'm also working with folks in Opera for implementation
   of TTML in Chromium so I expect that to move forward and be
   able to implement the TTML2 features, particularly through the
   HTML/CSS mapping process.

   <plh> [10]https://github.com/plehegar/ttml-js


     [10] https://github.com/plehegar/ttml-js


   plh: by the way I put the JS implementation on github for those
   who are new - I did that 4-5 years ago. It's not maintained.

   action-268: Proposed new timeline for TTML2 is August 2014 LC,
   Oct 2014 CR, Jan 2015 PR, Feb 2015 Rec.

   <trackbot> Notes added to action-268 Estimate timelines for
   ttml 2 deliberables with glenn.

   plh: after March 20 I will copy the charter and edit the
   timeline. I will also make Silvia's requested edit.

   close action-268

   <trackbot> Closed action-268.

   action-265?

   <trackbot> action-265 -- Glenn Adams to Take algorithm from
   ttml2 ed 8.2.13 tts:lineheight to css wg for review and
   potential adoption. -- due 2014-03-13 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot>
   [11]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/265


     [11] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/265


   glenn: we're not finalised on our thinking in this process and
   I'm still researching this so want to close this

   action-265: is related to issue-284

   <trackbot> Notes added to action-265 Take algorithm from ttml2
   ed 8.2.13 tts:lineheight to css wg for review and potential
   adoption..

   close action-265

   <trackbot> Closed action-265.

   action-272?

   <trackbot> action-272 -- Glenn Adams to Add notes to cp15 for
   those items that have already been implemented, where notes
   point at relevant change set -- due 2014-03-13 -- PENDINGREVIEW

   <trackbot>
   [12]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/272


     [12] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/272


   close action-272

   <trackbot> Closed action-272.

   action-273

   <trackbot> action-273 -- Nigel Megitt to Add dst note to next
   agenda -- due 2014-03-13 -- OPEN

   <trackbot>
   [13]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/273


     [13] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/273


   close action-273

   <trackbot> Closed action-273.

Change Proposals

AOB

   jdsmith: Change Proposals - lots are OPEN. What's the timeline?

   nigel: Good question - since we've just changed LC from April
   to August that now gives us until July to complete the change
   proposal issues

Summary of Action Items

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