- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 16:29:32 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CFFEDBF5.20C7E%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 120m. Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time.
We will have a short break after 57 minutes due to being human beings and having a limited ability to concentrate for a long stretch without needing a brief change of scene, extra coffee, biscuits etc.
Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
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Agenda+ Assign Roles
Chair: Nigel Megitt
Scribe: [to assign during meeting]
Regrets:
Activity since last meeting: Actions: Action-305, Action-308; discussion of issues: Issue-314, Issue-326; Issues raised: Issue-329, Issue-330; Geneva F2F survey responses.
Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting
Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest:
1. Geneva F2F September
2. MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter, if we're quorate on this topic
3. Action Items.
4. Issues - pending review first, then open and discussed, then raised, then open on IMSC 1 but not discussed
5. Planning for next change proposals to work on
6. AOB – please notify now!
Reminder re future meetings as agreed last week:
July 31: 2 hours
August 7: 1 hour
August 14: 2 hours
August 21: 1 hour
August 28: cancelled
Agenda+ Geneva F2F September
ACTION-295<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295/edit> open Socialise the geneva f2f meeting amongst the webvtt community<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/295> David Singer 2014-06-05
Survey created at [1], should now be open to TTWG and TTCG members.
Please complete this survey even if you will not attend.
There have been some responses from attendees this week, still only one from a WebVTT expert.
Wiki page at [2] including draft agenda
Agenda+ MPEG liaison re MIME Codecs parameter
ISSUE-305<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305/edit>
Profile short names PENDING REVIEW Register of TTML profiles and short names<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/305> 2014-05-01 1 Timed Text Working Group<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/>
ISSUE-280<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280/edit>
nested-profiles CLOSED Add ability to define a profile from multiple profiles.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/280> 2013-09-06 TTML2 0
ACTION-284<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284/edit> closed Create the registry page<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/284> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01
ACTION-290<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290>[(edit)]<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290/edit> open Describe the history for how we got to the signalling needed for mpeg that came from dece for issue-305.<http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/290> Mike Dolan 2014-05-29
Liaison in mail archive at [3] and text reproduced in ACTION-282. Response at [4].
Agenda+ Action items pending review
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-305<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305/edit> pending review Assign priorities to change proposals owned by pal<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/305> Pierre-Anthony Lemieux 2014-07-24
ACTION-306<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306/edit> pending review Assign priorities to change proposals owned by jdsmith<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/306> Jerry Smith 2014-07-24
ACTION-308<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/308>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/308/edit> pending review Create follow-up issue from issue-313<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/308> Nigel Megitt 2014-07-31 Is Presented Region a synonym for temporally active region?<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/330>
Agenda+ Action items overdue and due next week
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-234<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234/edit> open Explore box-decoration-break in response to issue-286<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/234> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-236<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236/edit> open Review consistent use of "root temporal extent" in both ttml 2 and ttml 1 se<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/236> Glenn Adams 2014-04-01
ACTION-285<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285/edit> open Implement proposed errata in issue-304<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/285> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01 Non-Standard Unqualified Attributes<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304>
ACTION-286<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286/edit> open Send an email to public-tt describing the ttv hosting site at w3c<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/286> Glenn Adams 2014-05-01
ACTION-287<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287/edit> open Elaborate on wording in §4 on namespace extension in ttml2 and as an errata to ttml1<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/287> Glenn Adams 2014-05-08
ACTION-298<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298/edit> open Either proscribe or define semantics on specifying both @extends and @restricts on a ttp:{feature,ext3ension}<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/298> Glenn Adams 2014-06-12
ACTION-304<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304/edit> open Assign priorities to change proposals owned by glenn<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/304> Glenn Adams 2014-07-24
ACTION-307<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307/edit> open Assign priorities to change proposals owned by mdolan<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/307> Mike Dolan 2014-07-24
ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with
ACTION-309<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/309>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/309/edit> open Propose a timeline for ttml 2 fpwd<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/309> Nigel Megitt 2014-07-31
Agenda+ Issues pending review, discussed, raised over the past week and open on IMSC 1
Pending Review
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-263<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263/edit> PENDING REVIEW profile feature set may not match intended feature constraints<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/263> 2013-07-17 TTML Simple Delivery Profile for Closed Captions (US) 0
ISSUE-323<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323/edit>
Content Processor behaviour is normative PENDING REVIEW Content Processor behaviour is normative<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/323> 2014-07-09 TTML2 0
Discussed over the last week
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-314<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314/edit>
Temporally active is not defined for regions OPEN Temporally active is not defined for regions<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/314> 2014-05-21 TTML 1.0 0
ISSUE-326<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326/edit> OPEN definitions do not use shall, uses of definitions may use shall<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/326> 2014-07-17 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
The following issues are 'raised' and in the absence of contrary debate will be moved to Open in this meeting:
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-329<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/329>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/329/edit>
Implement Change Proposal 5 RAISED Implement the mapping information in change proposal 5<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/329> 2014-07-25 TTML2 0
ISSUE-330<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/330>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/330/edit>
Is Presented Region a synonym for temporally active region? RAISED Is Presented Region a synonym for temporally active region?<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/330> 2014-07-28 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
We extended the duration of this meeting in recognition of the slow progress on IMSC 1 issues. The following issues are Open on IMSC 1:
ID State Title Raised on Product Open Actions
ISSUE-307<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307/edit>
Profile and conformance terminology OPEN Conformance language and processor profile rather than content profile.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/307> 2014-05-02 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-310<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310/edit>
progressivelyDecodable needs hierarchical definition OPEN Forward reference rule doesn't take into account child elements<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/310> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-311<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/311>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/311/edit>
Note on progressivelyDecodable OPEN Note on progressivelyDecodable is not a sentence<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/311> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-312<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312/edit>
forcedDisplay should be in ttm OPEN forcedDisplay attribute is metadata so should be in ttm not tts namespace<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/312> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-315<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315/edit>
Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint OPEN Maximum number of regions should be a processor constraint<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/315> 2014-05-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-319<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319/edit>
HRM should be a processor compliance test OPEN HRM should be a processor compliance test and allow different levels of complexity for different use cases<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/319> 2014-05-23 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
ISSUE-327<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327/edit>
IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines OPEN IMSC should meet W3C QA Framework Spec guidelines<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/327> 2014-07-21 TTML IMSC 1.0 0
Agenda+ Change Proposals – progress and review
Change Proposal Index is at [5]. Priorities have yet to be assigned by Glenn and Mike (see actions above).
Change Proposal 2 [6] is now CLOSED-IMPLEMENTED.
Timeline updated in 13th Mar meeting. This isn't looking very realistic right now:
January-March: Clean up and complete CPs
April-July: Draft, iterate and edit solutions to CP issues <-- We're still here!
August: Last Call
Agenda+ AOB
References
[1] WBS Survey for Geneva F2F https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TTWG_Geneva_F2F_Planning/
[2] Geneva F2F wiki page with draft agenda https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/geneva2014
[3] MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0005.html
[4] W3C response to MPEG Liaison re Codecs parameter http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Apr/0025.html
[5] Change Proposals at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
[6] Change Proposal 2 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
Tracker http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/trackerTTML
Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
Received on Wednesday, 30 July 2014 16:30:06 UTC