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Re: Converting the sample material provided by DECE to IMSC1

From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 17:59:41 +0100
Message-ID: <549307FD.1080609@w3.org>
To: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
CC: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
Pierre,

Thanks for your clarification.
See my responses in line.

On 18/12/2014 17:53, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux wrote:
> Hi Thierry,
>
> My input below.
>
>> 1- How  will we make sure we cover, with a least one test, every feature defined in IMSC1
>> (but not already present in TTML1).
>
> Below is my list of features defined in IMSC1 but not already present in TTML1:
>
> smpte:backgroundImage in
> http://www.smpte-ra.org/schemas/2052-1/2010/smpte-tt#image
> #multiRowAlign
> #linePadding
> #altText
> #forcedDisplay
> #aspectRatio
> #progressivelyDecodable
>

Thanks that helps.


> Each test could simply list which of these features it includes, in
> the 'Notes' column -- probably best renamed 'Features'.

Yes that would be helpful.
So if I understand correctly, some tests uses multi features ?

>
>> 5- I looked at some tests but I couldn't access all the material, I guess.
>
> The PNG URIs should be fixed now.

Thanks, will check.
>
>> 2- Do we have an estimate of how many tests would be needed (I think I recall you had started to evaluate this.
>
> Does W3C have specific requirements on the number of tests? At least
> one per feature, as you mention below, right?

Yes, at least one test per feature.

Thierry.


>
> Best,
>
> -- Pierre
>
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 12:18 AM, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>> Pierre,
>>
>> This first version of the implementation works great now. Thanks.
>>
>> I have a few issues about this testsuite and implementation Report that we
>> should probably discuss later during a telecon:
>>
>> 1- How  will we make sure we cover, with a least one test, every feature
>> defined in IMSC1 (but not already present in TTML1).
>>
>> 2- Do we have an estimate of how many tests would be needed (I think I
>> recall you had started to evaluate this).
>>
>> 3- There is a "Notes" column that mention the type of Profile. Should we
>> have also another one mentioning the feature tested.
>>
>> 4- each test should probably also explain in prose what the implementation
>> should display.
>>
>> 5- I looked at some tests but I couldn't access all the material, I guess.
>>
>> For example
>>
>> - the implementation links to track100-frag0-sample1-subs0.ttml
>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/file/tip/ttml-ww-profiles/testsuite/dece/Solekai032_MaxNumSubtitleTracks_v7_subtitles/track100-frag0-sample1-subs0.ttml
>>
>> - the test suite links to the same test in another URI
>>
>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/file/a6cb53f5e8ce/ttml-ww-profiles/testsuite/dece/Solekai032_MaxNumSubtitleTracks_v7_subtitles/track100-frag0-sample1-subs0.ttml
>>
>> But I can't access the png resources like "track100-frag0-sample1-subs1.png"
>> used in the above test [smpte:backgroundImage="1.png"/>]
>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/file/a6cb53f5e8ce/ttml-ww-profiles/testsuite/dece/Solekai032_MaxNumSubtitleTracks_v7_subtitles/track100-frag0-sample1-subs1.png
>>
>> Thanks for your work to lunch this test suite.
>>
>>
>> Thierry
>>
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>> On 18/12/2014 08:47, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Thierry,
>>>
>>> It should work now.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -- Pierre
>>>
>>> On Dec 17, 2014 11:33 PM, "Thierry MICHEL" <tmichel@w3.org
>>> <mailto:tmichel@w3.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      Pierre,
>>>
>>>
>>>      Thank you for converting this materiel provided by DECE.
>>>
>>>      I couldn't access to any tests linked from the Implementation_Report.
>>>      I may be missing something, as I am getting a "not found"  (see
>>>      attached screenshoot).
>>>
>>>      Thierry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      On 18/12/2014 06:31, Pierre-Anthony Lemieux wrote:
>>>
>>>          Good morning/evening,
>>>
>>>          I have taken a first stab [1] at converting the sample material
>>>          provided by DECE to IMSC1 using the script at [2], and have
>>> updated
>>>          the implementation report template at [3]
>>>
>>>          [1]
>>>
>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/__file/tip/ttml-ww-profiles/__testsuite/dece
>>>
>>> <https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/file/tip/ttml-ww-profiles/testsuite/dece>
>>>          [2]
>>>
>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/__file/tip/ttml-ww-profiles/__testsuite/src/convert-cff.py
>>>
>>> <https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/file/tip/ttml-ww-profiles/testsuite/src/convert-cff.py>
>>>          [3]
>>>          https://www.w3.org/wiki/__TimedText/IMSC1___Implementation_Report
>>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_Implementation_Report>
>>>
>>>          Looking forward to feedback.
>>>
>>>          Best,
>>>
>>>          -- Pierre
>>>
>>
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