- From: Pierre-Anthony Lemieux <pal@sandflow.com>
- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:51:11 +0200
- To: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Cc: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>, Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Addressed at https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/ceaa219bfbcc . Best, -- Pierre On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks for the clarification Glenn. I've added a note to ISSUE-330 which > I'll quote to save clicks: > > "In that case it would make sense to define 'presented region' in terms of a > 'temporally active region' that either contains visible content with opacity >>0 or has showBackground="always" and a backgroundColour with opacity >0." > > Nigel > > > On 28/07/2014 16:41, "Glenn Adams" <glenn@skynav.com> wrote: > > No, temporally active region and presented region are not synonymous. > Further, showBackground="whenActive" does not mean "when temporally active", > rather it means "when temporally active and has content selected into it". > As such it is a bit of a misnomer, but we adopted the name from SMIL and > repurposed it to our ends. > > See my additional comments in Issues 314 and 330. > > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Timed Text Working Group Issue Tracker > <sysbot+tracker@w3.org> wrote: >> >> ISSUE-330 (Is Presented Region a synonym for temporally active region?): >> Is Presented Region a synonym for temporally active region? [TTML IMSC 1.0] >> >> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/330 >> >> Raised by: Nigel Megitt >> On product: TTML IMSC 1.0 >> >> This issue is related to Issue-314 and was generated as part of the >> resolution to Issue-313. >> >> TTML 1 SE §9.3.2 [1] uses the term "temporally active region" to define >> regions that are included in the construction of intermediate synchronic >> documents "for the purposes of performing presentation processing". >> Issue-314 covers the point that this term is not defined. >> >> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/ttml1/#semantics-region-layout-step-1 >> >> IMSC 1 editor's draft §4.6.1 [2] defines and uses the term "presented >> region" to define regions that may be presented at any moment, and in all >> but one case references presented region with respect to an intermediate >> synchronic document. >> >> [2] >> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml-ww-profiles/ttml-ww-profiles.html#presented-region >> >> It looks as though these two terms may be synonyms, or very closely >> related to each other. If this is the case then IMSC 1 should reference the >> defined term in TTML 1 SE (if need be, after the resolution to Issue-314). >> If it is not the case then the difference should be clarified making >> reference to the similar concept. >> >> For example, if the resolution to Issue-314 is to define temporally active >> region in TTML 1 SE as any region that is either temporally active or has >> content selected into it that is temporally active, or has >> showBackground="always", then Presented Region in IMSC 1 may be defined as: >> any temporally active region which satisfies all of the following >> conditions..., >> where those conditions include [those currently specified] and those >> noted additionally by Glenn in response to Issue-313 [3], i.e. the values of >> the attributes tts:display, tts:visibility, tts:extent and tts:opacity are >> such that marks may be made by the region or its contents. >> >> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2014Jul/0036.html >> >> This issue created as per Action-308. >> >> >> >
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