- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
 - Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:11:13 +0000
 - To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
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Minutes available at: http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html,txt
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                Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
17 Apr 2014
   See also: [2]IRC log
      [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-irc
Attendees
   Present
          glenn, plh, tmichel, glenn, jdsmith, nigel
   Regrets
   Chair
          nigel
   Scribe
          plh
Contents
     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]TPAC 2014
         2. [5]IMSC progress
         3. [6]Actions
         4. [7]action items overdue
         5. [8]AOB
     * [9]Summary of Action Items
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   <trackbot> Date: 17 April 2014
TPAC 2014
   <nigel>
   [10]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/resul
   ts
     [10] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/results
   Nigel: survey is still open
   ... we have yes and prefer on Monday
   ... looks like we're looking at Monday and Friday at themoment
   ... Glenn would prefer not Monday
   Glenn: any tentative schedule yet?
   plh: not yet
   ... HTML and WebApps will likely be usual
   NigeL: Timed Text CG would be nice to meet with
   ... didn't talk with David yet
   Plh: we don't provide space for CGs to meet during TPAC
   Nigel: we should invite them to join one of our sessions then
   plh: sounds reasonable
   Nigel: for agenda items: TTML 2
   ... survey is open until next week
IMSC progress
   Pierre: my primary activity was to update the editors draft
   ... now referencing TTML 1
   ... name is ISMC 1.0 now
   ... Id like this group to consider FPWD now
   ... also some comments from John Birch
   ... I don't think the comments were against publication. hard
   to find specific requested changes.
   ... so didn't detect anything that were incompatible with FPWD
   Nigel: correct, FPWD doesn't imply endorsement. I read John's
   email as proposing to help with editing
   Pierre: I'd be glad to get more specific comments
   Nigel: I sent some pubrules changes
   Pierre: wasn't sure if those were proposed or final
   Nigel: fair enough to get it out there
   ... any objection to FPWD?
   Resolved: IMSC 1.0 to be published as FPWD
   Nigel: ok, let's get this decision to the list, give the 10
   days, target publication: May 1
   Pierre: ok, I'll get everything in order for then
   <tmichel> ok give me the latest url so I start checking the
   document
   <pal_> @tmichel:
   [11]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/52e24aaec29b/ttml-ww-p
   rofiles/ttml-ww-profiles.html
     [11] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/52e24aaec29b/ttml-ww-profiles/ttml-ww-profiles.html
   <tmichel> I will take a look at it and will gone back to you
   next week
   <pal_> @tmichel: thanks!
   ttml-ww-profiles
   imsc, ttml-imsc, t-imsc?
   tt-imsc?
   <tmichel> ttml-imsc
   objection to ttml-imsc?
   ttml-imsc1
   <glenn> ttml1-imsc
   <glenn> ttml2-imsc
   <pal_> ttml1-imsc1?
   Resolved to use ttml-imsc1
   <tmichel> ok
   <tmichel> so publication date should be first week of may ?
   plh: how about adding the subject header in the status
   <glenn> suggest headers use [IMSC] if not version specific or
   [IMSC1]/[IMSC2] otherwise
   Resolved: use [ttml-imsc1] in the subject header of emails for
   comments
   <tmichel> I will let you know what to add exactly
   <tmichel> you acn add it into the "mailto"
   Glenn: would prefer [imsc]
   Pierre: +1
   Resolved (again) : use [imsc] in the subject header of emails
   for comments
   Nigel: can we do the same for ttml2 then?
   Glenn: I would use [ttml], folks can add a version number if
   it's specific
   <scribe> ACTION: Pierre to add [imsc] subject header in the
   IMSC draft [recorded in
   [13]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action01]
   <trackbot> Created ACTION-279 - Add [imsc] subject header in
   the imsc draft [on Pierre-Anthony Lemieux - due 2014-04-24].
   <scribe> ACTION: Glenn to use [ttml] in the subject header in
   TTML drafts [recorded in
   [14]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action02]
   <trackbot> Created ACTION-280 - Use [ttml] in the subject
   header in ttml drafts [on Glenn Adams - due 2014-04-24].
Actions
   action-215?
   <trackbot> action-215 -- Glenn Adams to Specify special
   semantics for tts:{extent, origin} on content elements to map
   to new inline region feature -- due 2014-04-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
   <trackbot>
   [15]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/215
     [15] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/215
   Nigel: this is related to issue 176
   issue-176?
   <trackbot> issue-176 -- Adding support for extent and origin
   attributes on block elements -- pending review
   <trackbot>
   [16]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/176
     [16] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/176
   Glenn: didn't get comments
   ... I suggest to close them
   ... we have an editorial note for inline regions but that's
   independent
   Nigel: not obvious they shouldn't be independent.
   <nigel>
   [17]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml2/spec/ttm
   l2.html#layout-attribute-region
     [17] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#layout-attribute-region
   close issue-176
   <trackbot> Closed issue-176.
   close action-215
   <trackbot> Closed action-215.
   action-278?
   <trackbot> action-278 -- Glenn Adams to Add ednote to 9.3.2
   with reminder to deal with case of having multiple inline
   regions possibly with additional reference to out-of-line
   region -- due 2014-04-03 -- PENDINGREVIEW
   <trackbot>
   [18]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/278
     [18] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/278
   [19]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/b78e2a0db0b1
     [19] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/b78e2a0db0b1
   close action-278
   <trackbot> Closed action-278.
action items overdue
   action-274?
   <trackbot> action-274 -- Nigel Megitt to Discuss with david
   singer possibilities for f2f before going ahead and adding ttwg
   to tpac agenda. -- due 2014-03-27 -- OPEN
   <trackbot>
   [20]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/274
     [20] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/274
   Nigel: we're looking at going ahead with the f2f
   ... we can have an additional f2f before that time
   ... Daivd favors it
   ... I can host it in London
   plh: timeframe?
   Nigel: unclear at the moment
   Nigel: September?
   Pierre: in that month, there is a SMPTE meeting, IVC
   ... we would have to go around those events
   ... s/IBC/IBC/
   Nigel: IBC is September 10 to 15 or 16
   <pal_> [23]http://www.ibc.org/
     [23] http://www.ibc.org/
   Pierre: SMPTE is just after
   Nigel: so IBC runs from 11 to 16
   <nigel>
   [24]http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/Action=VCalendarIndex/CalendarI
   D=3/t=m
     [24] http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/Action=VCalendarIndex/CalendarID=3/t=m
   Pierre: SMPTE is probably September 17 to 21
   ... in Geneva
   Nigel: IBC is in AMsterdam
   NigeL; squeezing in between would fail
   Pierre: first day of SMPTE is flexible
   Glenn: how about 16-17?
   <scribe> ACTION: Nigel to talk to Frans about hosting a meeting
   [recorded in
   [25]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action03]
   <trackbot> Created ACTION-281 - Talk to franz about hosting a
   meeting [on Nigel Megitt - due 2014-04-24].
   Nigel: will continue to talk to David as well
   Pierre: what would the goal be?
   ... brainstorm first then solve remaining issues at the
   meeting?
   Nigel: goal is to have both groups, looking at the concepts of
   both format
   ... might go throught the logical concept first
   Pierre: so, sounds like brainstorming
   <glenn>
   [26]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml1-api/Over
   view.html
     [26] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml1-api/Overview.html
   plh: btw, HTML wg talked about datacue last week
   Jerry: should ttmlcue be in ttml spec?
   Glenn: I started to work on it in November. would probably need
   a refresh
   Plh: we ought to make sure on our mapping with HTML5 prior to
   the september meeting
   Jerry: what's the timeline for the API?
   Glenn: I'd like the TTML1 API to be published
   plh: differences between ttml 1 and 2 api?
   Glenn: ttml1 is raw. for 2, I'd like to include more of the
   mapping
AOB
   issue-304?
   <trackbot> issue-304 -- Non-standard unqualified attributes not
   permitted -- open
   <trackbot>
   [27]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304
     [27] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304
   Glenn: we also made progress on the TTML validator at w3c
   <glenn> [28]http://validator-test.w3.org/ttml
     [28] http://validator-test.w3.org/ttml
   Glenn: that's the TTV tool
   ... it's in beta
   ... but folks can start playing with it
   [adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
   [NEW] ACTION: Glenn to use [ttml] in the subject header in TTML
   drafts [recorded in
   [29]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action02]
   [NEW] ACTION: Nigel to talk to Frans about hosting a meeting
   [recorded in
   [30]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action03]
   [NEW] ACTION: Pierre to add [imsc] subject header in the IMSC
   draft [recorded in
   [31]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action01]
   [End of minutes]
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