- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 15:11:13 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
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Minutes available at: http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html,txt
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Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
17 Apr 2014
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Attendees
Present
glenn, plh, tmichel, glenn, jdsmith, nigel
Regrets
Chair
nigel
Scribe
plh
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]TPAC 2014
2. [5]IMSC progress
3. [6]Actions
4. [7]action items overdue
5. [8]AOB
* [9]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 17 April 2014
TPAC 2014
<nigel>
[10]https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/resul
ts
[10] https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34314/TPAC2014Planning/results
Nigel: survey is still open
... we have yes and prefer on Monday
... looks like we're looking at Monday and Friday at themoment
... Glenn would prefer not Monday
Glenn: any tentative schedule yet?
plh: not yet
... HTML and WebApps will likely be usual
NigeL: Timed Text CG would be nice to meet with
... didn't talk with David yet
Plh: we don't provide space for CGs to meet during TPAC
Nigel: we should invite them to join one of our sessions then
plh: sounds reasonable
Nigel: for agenda items: TTML 2
... survey is open until next week
IMSC progress
Pierre: my primary activity was to update the editors draft
... now referencing TTML 1
... name is ISMC 1.0 now
... Id like this group to consider FPWD now
... also some comments from John Birch
... I don't think the comments were against publication. hard
to find specific requested changes.
... so didn't detect anything that were incompatible with FPWD
Nigel: correct, FPWD doesn't imply endorsement. I read John's
email as proposing to help with editing
Pierre: I'd be glad to get more specific comments
Nigel: I sent some pubrules changes
Pierre: wasn't sure if those were proposed or final
Nigel: fair enough to get it out there
... any objection to FPWD?
Resolved: IMSC 1.0 to be published as FPWD
Nigel: ok, let's get this decision to the list, give the 10
days, target publication: May 1
Pierre: ok, I'll get everything in order for then
<tmichel> ok give me the latest url so I start checking the
document
<pal_> @tmichel:
[11]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/52e24aaec29b/ttml-ww-p
rofiles/ttml-ww-profiles.html
[11] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/52e24aaec29b/ttml-ww-profiles/ttml-ww-profiles.html
<tmichel> I will take a look at it and will gone back to you
next week
<pal_> @tmichel: thanks!
ttml-ww-profiles
imsc, ttml-imsc, t-imsc?
tt-imsc?
<tmichel> ttml-imsc
objection to ttml-imsc?
ttml-imsc1
<glenn> ttml1-imsc
<glenn> ttml2-imsc
<pal_> ttml1-imsc1?
Resolved to use ttml-imsc1
<tmichel> ok
<tmichel> so publication date should be first week of may ?
plh: how about adding the subject header in the status
<glenn> suggest headers use [IMSC] if not version specific or
[IMSC1]/[IMSC2] otherwise
Resolved: use [ttml-imsc1] in the subject header of emails for
comments
<tmichel> I will let you know what to add exactly
<tmichel> you acn add it into the "mailto"
Glenn: would prefer [imsc]
Pierre: +1
Resolved (again) : use [imsc] in the subject header of emails
for comments
Nigel: can we do the same for ttml2 then?
Glenn: I would use [ttml], folks can add a version number if
it's specific
<scribe> ACTION: Pierre to add [imsc] subject header in the
IMSC draft [recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-279 - Add [imsc] subject header in
the imsc draft [on Pierre-Anthony Lemieux - due 2014-04-24].
<scribe> ACTION: Glenn to use [ttml] in the subject header in
TTML drafts [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-280 - Use [ttml] in the subject
header in ttml drafts [on Glenn Adams - due 2014-04-24].
Actions
action-215?
<trackbot> action-215 -- Glenn Adams to Specify special
semantics for tts:{extent, origin} on content elements to map
to new inline region feature -- due 2014-04-01 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot>
[15]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/215
[15] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/215
Nigel: this is related to issue 176
issue-176?
<trackbot> issue-176 -- Adding support for extent and origin
attributes on block elements -- pending review
<trackbot>
[16]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/176
[16] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/176
Glenn: didn't get comments
... I suggest to close them
... we have an editorial note for inline regions but that's
independent
Nigel: not obvious they shouldn't be independent.
<nigel>
[17]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml2/spec/ttm
l2.html#layout-attribute-region
[17] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#layout-attribute-region
close issue-176
<trackbot> Closed issue-176.
close action-215
<trackbot> Closed action-215.
action-278?
<trackbot> action-278 -- Glenn Adams to Add ednote to 9.3.2
with reminder to deal with case of having multiple inline
regions possibly with additional reference to out-of-line
region -- due 2014-04-03 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot>
[18]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/278
[18] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/278
[19]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/b78e2a0db0b1
[19] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/b78e2a0db0b1
close action-278
<trackbot> Closed action-278.
action items overdue
action-274?
<trackbot> action-274 -- Nigel Megitt to Discuss with david
singer possibilities for f2f before going ahead and adding ttwg
to tpac agenda. -- due 2014-03-27 -- OPEN
<trackbot>
[20]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/274
[20] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/274
Nigel: we're looking at going ahead with the f2f
... we can have an additional f2f before that time
... Daivd favors it
... I can host it in London
plh: timeframe?
Nigel: unclear at the moment
Nigel: September?
Pierre: in that month, there is a SMPTE meeting, IVC
... we would have to go around those events
... s/IBC/IBC/
Nigel: IBC is September 10 to 15 or 16
<pal_> [23]http://www.ibc.org/
[23] http://www.ibc.org/
Pierre: SMPTE is just after
Nigel: so IBC runs from 11 to 16
<nigel>
[24]http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/Action=VCalendarIndex/CalendarI
D=3/t=m
[24] http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/Action=VCalendarIndex/CalendarID=3/t=m
Pierre: SMPTE is probably September 17 to 21
... in Geneva
Nigel: IBC is in AMsterdam
NigeL; squeezing in between would fail
Pierre: first day of SMPTE is flexible
Glenn: how about 16-17?
<scribe> ACTION: Nigel to talk to Frans about hosting a meeting
[recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-281 - Talk to franz about hosting a
meeting [on Nigel Megitt - due 2014-04-24].
Nigel: will continue to talk to David as well
Pierre: what would the goal be?
... brainstorm first then solve remaining issues at the
meeting?
Nigel: goal is to have both groups, looking at the concepts of
both format
... might go throught the logical concept first
Pierre: so, sounds like brainstorming
<glenn>
[26]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml1-api/Over
view.html
[26] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml1-api/Overview.html
plh: btw, HTML wg talked about datacue last week
Jerry: should ttmlcue be in ttml spec?
Glenn: I started to work on it in November. would probably need
a refresh
Plh: we ought to make sure on our mapping with HTML5 prior to
the september meeting
Jerry: what's the timeline for the API?
Glenn: I'd like the TTML1 API to be published
plh: differences between ttml 1 and 2 api?
Glenn: ttml1 is raw. for 2, I'd like to include more of the
mapping
AOB
issue-304?
<trackbot> issue-304 -- Non-standard unqualified attributes not
permitted -- open
<trackbot>
[27]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304
[27] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/304
Glenn: we also made progress on the TTML validator at w3c
<glenn> [28]http://validator-test.w3.org/ttml
[28] http://validator-test.w3.org/ttml
Glenn: that's the TTV tool
... it's in beta
... but folks can start playing with it
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Glenn to use [ttml] in the subject header in TTML
drafts [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Nigel to talk to Frans about hosting a meeting
[recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Pierre to add [imsc] subject header in the IMSC
draft [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2014/04/17-tt-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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