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Re: TTML Agenda for 20/06/13 -- ADVANCE NOTICE --

From: Andreas Tai <tai@irt.de>
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:12:35 +0200
Message-ID: <51C1CA63.9030009@irt.de>
To: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
CC: public-tt <public-tt@w3.org>, Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
Thanks for clarification, Glenn. The explanations could be useful as 
notes in related the tracker entries.

Andreas

Am 19.06.2013 16:08, schrieb Glenn Adams:
>
> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Andreas Tai <tai@irt.de 
> <mailto:tai@irt.de>> wrote:
>
>
>     Agenda+ ISSUE 163 https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/166
>     >> resolution to use zip file linked from spec
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Possibly a short explanation why a location of unwrapped schemas
>     is not provided would be useful. In case of the xml.xsd I think it
>     is clearly a performance issue (the access of xml.xsd on the W3C
>     server is "rate-limited" due to the high traffic).
>
>
> Since nothing in TTML cares about how schemas are used or where their 
> resources reside, then this is really out of scope for TTML the spec.
>
>
>     The related action could then be closed as well:
>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/143
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>     Agenda+ ISSUE 180 https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/180
>
>     >> fixed by new text in 8.2.7: where, if either width or height is
>     negative or zero, then extent must be considered zero in both
>     inline and block progression dimensions
>
>
> Actually, this has changed after we realized that CSS and XSL-FO 
> forbid negative values for width and height. See the new text 
> under file:///Users/glenn/work/w3c/ttml/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#style-attribute-extent.
>
>
>
>     Issue 180 is not only about the negative value for tts:extent but
>     also for tts:origin. It raises the general question if a region
>     could be outside of the root container and if a region could be
>     clipped.
>
>
> The answer is that there is no requirement for a region to be 
> contained in the root container region.
>
> The definition
>
> Root Container Region
>
>     A logical region that establishes a coordinate system into which
>     /Document Instance/ content regions are placed and optionally clipped.
>
> indicates that clipping of the RC is optional, so that is "document 
> processing context" specific issue as defined.
>
> A use case for having a region appear outside of the RC is to fly the 
> region into or out of the RC via animation.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>     Am 17.06.2013 17:43, schrieb Sean Hayes:
>>
>>     NOTE:: As part of my ongoing effort to spring clean the Tracker
>>     database, I'm putting this out extra early this week so we all
>>     have time to properly prepare and can rattle through and close
>>     out all of the 'pending review' items.
>>
>>     Could you all, before Thursdays meeting, please go through the
>>     list below make sure you are happy that the action stated has
>>     been completed and adequately addresses the raised issue.
>>
>>     Thanks
>>
>>     Sean.
>>
>>     our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time,
>>     the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may
>>     change. Please check
>>     http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=06&day=20&year=2013&hour=10&min=0&sec=0&p1=43
>>
>>     Thursdays 10:00am-11:00am Boston local
>>
>>     Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200 <tel:%2B1.617.761.6200>, conference
>>     8865 ("TTML")
>>
>>     IRC: server: irc.w3.org <http://irc.w3.org>, port: 6665, channel:
>>     #tt Web gateway to :http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc
>>
>>     Chair: Sean Hayes
>>
>>     Agenda+ Assign Scribe
>>
>>     Agenda+ AC caption discussion
>>
>>     Agenda+ Close out Issues and Actions pending review
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 157
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/157 and Action
>>     147 https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/147
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 163
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/163 and ACTION
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/84
>>
>>     >> see clarifying note added at end of 6.2.1 ttp:cellResolution (in 1.0SE)
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 163
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/166
>>
>>     >> resolution to use zip file linked from spec
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 171
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/171
>>
>>     >> fixed at http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/94e02f131542
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 172
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/172
>>
>>     >> fixed by removing (comment out in source) pseudo-code which was
>>     intended to be informative, leaving normative prose in place
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 173
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/173
>>
>>     >> Determined as covered by XSL:FO.
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 180
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/180
>>
>>     >> fixed by new text in 8.2.7: where, if either width or height is
>>     negative or zero, then extent must be considered zero in both
>>     inline and block progression dimensions
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 184
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/184
>>
>>     >> fixed by new [animation styling] step 5 in 8.4.4.2 specified
>>     style set processing
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 189
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/189
>>
>>     >> removed: there is no longer an "overflow: scroll"; see also note
>>     at end of 9.3.2
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 197
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/197
>>
>>     >> addressed by new Appendix M (informative)
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 199
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/199
>>
>>     >> Addressed by new Appendix N
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 200
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/200
>>
>>     >> Addressed by new Appendix N
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 211
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/211
>>
>>     >> Schema updated?
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 212
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/212
>>
>>     >> Schema updated?
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 214 https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/214
>>
>>     >> added language proscribing negative lengths to section 8.2.1.6.
>>
>>     Agenda+ ISSUE 215
>>     https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/215
>>
>>     >> Text updated?
>>
>>     Tracker (Issues and Actions): http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker
>>
>>     current text :
>>     https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/default/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html
>>
>>     TTML Wiki
>>
>>     http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>>
>>     Second edition draft:
>>
>>     https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html?content-type=text/html%3bcharset=utf-8
>>
>
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Andreas Tai
Production Systems Television IRT - Institut fuer Rundfunktechnik GmbH
R&D Institute of ARD, ZDF, DRadio, ORF and SRG/SSR
Floriansmuehlstrasse 60, D-80939 Munich, Germany

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