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RE: Proposal for Action-110 related to Issue-189

From: Monica Martin (MS OPEN TECH) <momartin@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 09:01:20 +0000
To: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>, Michael Dolan <mdolan@newtbt.com>, "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
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On Issue-189 and Action-110, suggest we add:
 - Add additional note to Example 5. 
	- The author is responsible to set the timing such that the content flows into and out of the region to simulate these capabilities.
- Add displayAlign feature as optional. 
- Discuss what else is need in the example. 

Your updated example in TTML 1.0 Second Edition can lend more clarity on how to handle scrolling. 

Let's discuss Thursday.


From: Sean Hayes [mailto:Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 6:51 AM
To: Michael Dolan; public-tt@w3.org
Subject: RE: Proposal for Action-110 related to Issue-189

Well the four lines do in fact roll up. I think the problem is that it is both paint-on and rollup; which is how live captions are typically presented. 
We can separate these two aspects and use more appropriate words.

From: Michael Dolan [mailto:mdolan@newtbt.com] 
Sent: 17 October 2012 23:07
To: public-tt@w3.org
Subject: RE: Proposal for Action-110 related to Issue-189

The problem remains that this is not a rollup example.  The only way to keep this example is to rename it painton and change any reference to it being a rollup.

And, no it cannot in fact "go.on.all.day", so I would remove that text as it is misleading.

See my example posted to the list for the 2nd edition if you want a basis for a rollup example, which I would suggest be made into a new example.


From: Monica Martin (MS OPEN TECH) [mailto:momartin@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 10:03 PM
To: 'public-tt@w3.org'; Sean Hayes; Michael A Dolan (mdolan@newtbt.com)
Subject: Proposal for Action-110 related to Issue-189

Action-110: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/110
Issue-189: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/189

1. Replace Example 5. See below.
2. Add use of feature displayAlign.

<style xml:id="rollupStyle" s:textAlign="left" s:textOutline="#ff0000ff 10%" s:backgroundColor="#00000000" s:color="#ffffffff" s:origin="20% 20%" s:extent="80% 80%" /> 
<!--  A rollup type region   --> 
  <region xml:id="rollup" begin="00:00:13.000" end="00:00:31.000" style="rollupStyle" tts:displayAlign="after"/> 

<p region='rollup' tts:color="white" begin='00:00:13.000' dur='00:00:11.000'>
  <span begin='00:00:01.000'>rollup</span>
  <span begin='00:00:02.000'>style</span>
  <span begin='00:00:03.000'>caption</span>
  <span begin='00:00:04.000'>support</span>
<p region='rollup' begin='00:00:17.000' dur='00:00:11.000'>
  <span begin='00:00:01.000'>with</span>
  <span begin='00:00:02.000'>word</span>
  <span begin='00:00:03.000'>at</span>
  <span begin='00:00:04.000'>a</span>
  <span begin='00:00:05.000'>time</span>
 <span begin='00:00:06.000'>temporal</span>
<p region='rollup' begin='00:00:23.000' dur='00:00:11.000'>
  <span begin='00:00:01.000'>placement</span>
  <span begin='00:00:02.000'>this</span>
  <span begin='00:00:03.000'>could</span>
  <span begin='00:00:04.000'>go</span>
<p region='rollup' begin='00:00:27.000' dur='00:00:11.000'>
  <span begin='00:00:01.000'>on</span>
  <span begin='00:00:02.000'>all</span>
  <span begin='00:00:03.000'>day</span>

Monica J Martin
Senior Program Manager
Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. 
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
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