- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 24 May 2012 07:55:24 -0600
- To: Michael A Dolan <mdolan@newtbt.com>
- Cc: public-tt@w3.org
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+cqGY+y_-QTiakqpRLo9HhV_etSfoDW=Uwd+aDkr5GmZg@mail.gmail.com>
as TTML is defined, smpte time base is always marker based, whether the markers are continuous or not; we had defined 'continuous' irrespective of the value of the first marker, and irrespective of use of drop frame, since neither of these result in uncomputable discontinuities that prevent calculating duration; that is, duration is computable with drop frame and arbitrary start time if you know the drop frame mode and have read the first marker; on the other hand, if post production edits result in the insertion or deletion of material that introduces other types of non-linearity, e.g., a jump forward or backward of time codes, or a different rate of time codes with respect to media time (PTS), then those edits would constitute discontinuous mode; On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:47 AM, Michael A Dolan <mdolan@newtbt.com> wrote: > SMPTE timecode is often discontinuous due to post production edits, and > (in the US for non-integer framerates) always dropframe mode, and common > practice is to start the first frame of the media at 1 hour (not zero), > thus making presentation time undefined. So, SMPTE timecode is nearly > always marker mode. The special case is actually when it is usable as a > non-marker timebase.**** > > ** ** > > Regards,**** > > ** ** > > Mike**** > > ** ** > > *From:* Glenn Adams [mailto:glenn@skynav.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 23, 2012 11:45 PM > *To:* Andreas Tai > *Cc:* public-tt@w3.org > *Subject:* Re: Initial value of ttp:markerMode**** > > ** ** > > I have never thought that markerMode was intended to primarily express > discontinuous markers. When we created this property, the discontinuous > mode was thought to be an exception rather than the default. So without > considerable further discussion, I would hesitate to accept this proposal. > **** > > On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Andreas Tai <tai@irt.de> wrote:**** > > I would like to propose to change the initial value of markerMode from > contineous to discontineous. As seen in discussions the intended meaning of > markermode aligns more with the expressed meaning of markermode > "discontineous". > > What do you think? > > Best regards, > > Andreas > > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > Andreas Tai > Production Systems Television IRT - Institut fuer Rundfunktechnik GmbH > R&D Institute of ARD, ZDF, DRadio, ORF and SRG/SSR > Floriansmuehlstrasse 60, D-80939 Munich, Germany > > Phone: +49 89 32399-389 | Fax: +49 89 32399-200 > http: www.irt.de | Email: tai@irt.de > ------------------------------------------------ > > registration court& managing director: > Munich Commercial, RegNo. B 5191 > Dr. Klaus Illgner-Fehns > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > **** > > ** ** >
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