- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:05:07 -0700
- To: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
- Cc: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+fQnWRyF6poEqJ72os9nfG2ry05K+uReQyNPdQSKxWqvg@mail.gmail.com>
[1]W3C
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Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
01 Mar 2012
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Feb/0029.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-irc
Attendees
Present
+44.844.800.aaaa (Sean), glenn, Mike_Dolan, +49.893.aabb (Andreas),
andreas-irt, Plh, Sean, +1.617.300.aacc (WGBH)
Chair
sean
Scribe
glenn
Contents
* [4]Topics
1. [5]end sync issue
2. [6]Issue 151
3. [7]clarify syncbase on smpte continuous mode
4. [8]what does "transformation semantics" mean (see D.1.102)
5. [9]adjournment
* [10]Summary of Action Items
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<trackbot> Date: 01 March 2012
<scribe> scribe: glenn
regrets geoff
<plh> trackbot-ng, start telcon
sean: franz may be at a meeting in london, this is probably it for
today
<trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
<trackbot> Date: 01 March 2012
plh: i already set up trackbot
np
<plh> zaki, aaaa is Sean
<scribe> chair: sean
<scribe> scribe: glenn
<scribe> agenda:
[11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Feb/0029.html
[11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Feb/0029.html
sean: has made editorial changes to charger per last week
... but not yet published
<plh> charter updated:
[12]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/timed-text-wg-charter.html
[12] http://www.w3.org/2012/02/timed-text-wg-charter.html
ACTION-152?
<trackbot> ACTION-152 does not exist
<Sean> Geoff is WGBH?
<plh> action-44?
<trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Glenn Adams to redirect errata -- due
2012-03-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
[13] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
ISSUE-152?
<trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- language in 9.3.3 -- open
<trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152
[14] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152
<plh> Glenn: I updated the draft
<plh> ... redirect is in place
<plh> ... I found some issues due to parameters
<plh> ... so folks might need to update their bookmarks
<plh> issue-152?
<trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- language in 9.3.3 -- open
<trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152
[15] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/152
<plh> action-43?
<trackbot> ACTION-43 -- Glenn Adams to implement edit for issue-152
-- due 2012-03-01 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/43
[16] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/43
action-43?
<trackbot> ACTION-43 -- Glenn Adams to implement edit for issue-152
-- due 2012-03-01 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/43
[17] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/43
action-45?
<trackbot> ACTION-45 -- Glenn Adams to effect editorial change on
issue-153 -- due 2012-03-01 -- CLOSED
<trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/45
[18] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/45
<plh> [19]https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/5b9abdec7634
[19] https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/rev/5b9abdec7634
[20]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.h
tml
[20] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html
action-44?
<trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Glenn Adams to redirect errata -- due
2012-03-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
[21] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44
not yet implement
<plh> +1 to mercurial
will follow up with plh on action-44
<plh> plh: can we close issue 152 and 153?
<plh> sean: let's wait to review the changes first
leave issues 152, 153 open for a week, pending review, then close
next week
<plh> action-46?
<trackbot> ACTION-46 -- Glenn Adams to remove examples as editorial
change -- due 2012-03-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> [22]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/46
[22] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/46
<plh> Glenn: got ready to do that. I wasn't exactly sure on the
instruction however
<plh> ... and not sure we should do that
<plh> ... I think section 12.1.1 metadata has two example fragments
<plh> ... one is foreign metadata
<plh> ... and one is element metadata
<plh> ... is that what I was supposed to remove?
<plh> Sean: no
<plh> ... in Annex F
<plh> ... we have F.1 DFXP profile
<plh> ... there was a feature there
<plh> ... and no corresponding features in annex E
<plh> -->
[23]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.h
tml#profile-dfxp-transformation F.1 DFXP Transformation Profile
[23] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#profile-dfxp-transformation
<plh> ... as well as F1, F2, and F3
<plh> action-46: examples to fix are in F1, F2, F3. search for a
feature that is not defined in annex D
<trackbot> ACTION-46 Remove examples as editorial change notes added
<plh> action-46: remove <feature
value="optional">#metadata-foreign</feature> from the examples
<trackbot> ACTION-46 Remove examples as editorial change notes added
<plh> Sean: I have no object to adding it though
<plh> ... it's not critical either way
<plh> ... if it's an easy change, that's fine
<plh> ... it's not a huge change
<plh> ... right now, it didn't seem sensible to keep it
<plh> ?: what would it mean to keep it?
<plh> Glenn: it's not really rejecting but ignored. the spec
requires that foreign attributes to remove before doing validity. if
the feature was required, it would mean that the transformation
process would have to keep it into account
<plh> Sean: seems that they should use a specific flag instead,
rather than a generic one
<plh> ?: +1
<plh> Glenn: ok, let's remove the feature token and people can
introduce their owns
<plh> Sean: agreed, it's better for everyone
<plh> ... and make more sense in light of the extension mechanism
<plh> Glenn: ok, I'll do the change then
plh: i can continue now
end sync issue
sean: any input?
... leave open for more review
<plh> Sean: did people look at the action on default endsync?
<plh> [no answer]
<plh> Sean: let's keep it open for now
issue-154?
<trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- Clarify the endsync behavior -- open
<trackbot> [24]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/154
[24] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/154
Issue 151
<plh> issue-151?
<trackbot> ISSUE-151 -- Clarify syncbase in SMPTE continuous mode --
open
<trackbot> [25]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/151
[25] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/151
clarify syncbase on smpte continuous mode
<Sean> Mike: There are illegal expressions in smpte timecode
<Sean> what is goin gon?
<plh> you got dropped
<plh> can you dial back?
<Sean> OK. I'm listening to some weird call
<Sean> back in a sec
<scribe> ACTION: glenn to add "(Second Edition)" to draft [recorded
in [26]http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Add "(Second Edition)" to draft [on
Glenn Adams - due 2012-03-08].
<scribe> ACTION: sean to elaborate issue-151 points [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Elaborate issue-151 points [on Sean
Hayes - due 2012-03-08].
issue-157?
<trackbot> ISSUE-157 -- transformation profile -- open
<trackbot> [28]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/157
[28] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/157
what does "transformation semantics" mean (see D.1.102)
<scribe> ACTION: glenn to add note and editorial text elaborating
"transformation semantics" [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Add note and editorial text
elaborating "transformation semantics" [on Glenn Adams - due
2012-03-08].
issue-156?
<trackbot> ISSUE-156 -- semantics of missing #feature -- open
<trackbot> [30]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/156
[30] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/156
plh: regrets for next week, will be traveling
adjournment
trackbot, end meeting
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: glenn to add "(Second Edition)" to draft [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: glenn to add note and editorial text elaborating
"transformation semantics" [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: sean to elaborate issue-151 points [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2012/03/01-tt-minutes.html#action02]
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On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>wrote:
>
> Thursdays 15:00-15:00 UTC (10:00am-11:00am Boston local)
> Zakim Bridge +1.617.761.6200, conference 8865 ("TTML")
> IRC: server: irc.w3.org, port: 6665, channel: #tt
>
> Agenda
>
> Chair: Sean Hayes
>
> Agenda+ : Assign Scribe
>
> Agenda+ Decision whether to forward charter [1] to AC's
>
> Agenda+ Review actions
>
> ACTION: glenn implement edit for issue-152
> http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action02]
>
> ACTION: glenn to effect editorial change on issue-153
> http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action04
>
> ACTION: glenn to implement migration for repository with help from plh
> http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action01
>
> ACTION: glenn to redirect errata
> http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action03
>
> ACTION: glenn to remove examples as editorial
> http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action05
>
> ACTION: ttwg to review possible change to default endsync (from 'last' to
> 'all') http://www.w3.org/2012/02/23-tt-minutes.html#action06
>
> Agenda+ Review actions/issues on v1.0
> (note we will address as many issues as we can in the time allotted,
> rather than try to fit truncated discussions into the allotted time)
>
> Agenda+ ISSUE-151 SMPTE continuous mode
> Agenda+ ISSUE-157 transformation profile
> Agenda+ ISSUE-156 semantics of missing #feature
>
> Agenda+ Review actions/issues on v1.1
>
> Agenda+ ISSUE-160 Centered flush left captions
> Agenda+ ISSUE-20 Region border
> Agenda+ SSUE-21 window anchor points
> Agenda+ ISSUE-22 window fade in/out
> Agenda+ ISSUE-23 animation
> Agenda+ ISSUE-24 script
> Agenda+ ISSUE-25 role parameters
> Agenda+ ISSUE-72 smooth scrolling
> Agenda+ ISSUE-158 background images
> Agenda+ ISSUE-138 Ruby support
> Agenda+ ISSUE-159 Text orientation
> Agenda+ ISSUE-10 pointers to pre-rendered audio forms of elements
>
> Links to Key Documents
>
> [1] Draft Charter. at
> http://www.w3.org/2012/02/timed-text-wg-charter.html
>
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