- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:00:42 -0600
- To: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
- Cc: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+dk02MoicPeWEd_iwkrm1wDAJZtJ16wN+9uYcUncUjDTw@mail.gmail.com>
Automated draft minutes at [1], text form follows:
[1] http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html
- DRAFT -
Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
07 Jun 2012
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Jun/0004.html
See also: [3]IRC log
[3] http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-irc
Attendees
Present
Glenn Adams, Sean Hayes, Mike Dolan, Geoff Freed
Regrets
Chair
sean
Scribe
glenn
Contents
* [4]Topics
* [5]Summary of Action Items
__________________________________________________________
<trackbot> Date: 07 June 2012
<scribe> ScribeNick: glenn
glenn: in reviewing CP2, noticed the filler semantics of 9.3.3
item 7, which may be technically problematic
... that is, if this is intended to fill out background of tt:p
(for example), then may not have that effect
... since it applies to a new empty block, and not to the prior
(presumably) tt:p block
<scribe> ACTION: glenn to investigate correctness of 9.3.3 (7)
w.r.t. XSL-FO semantics, and report back to WG [recorded in
[6]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-69 - Investigate correctness of 9.3.3
(7) w.r.t. XSL-FO semantics, and report back to WG [on Glenn
Adams - due 2012-06-14].
<scribe> ACTION: sean to create a new, separate issue for CP2
(extent/origin) [recorded in
[7]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-70 - Create a new, separate issue for
CP2 (extent/origin) [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-06-14].
<scribe> ACTION: glenn to verify whether XSL-FO semantics of
absolutely positioned block container is in relation to 'page'
(i.e., root container in TTML terms) [recorded in
[8]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-71 - Verify whether XSL-FO semantics
of absolutely positioned block container is in relation to
'page' (i.e., root container in TTML terms) [on Glenn Adams -
due 2012-06-14].
mike: needs resolution on which license to use for TTML schemas
RESOLVE: that TTML schemas should be considered software,
w.r.t. W3C licensing rules
mike: regarding profile language, need to make clear that
out-of-band protocol or mechanism can be used to specify
profile
<mike> If neitherttp:profileattribute norttp:profileelement is
present in a TTML document instance, and if the document
interchange context does not specify a profile, then the DFXP
Transformation profile applies.
<mike> RTR: "and if the document interchange context does not
specify a profile document, or other equivalent set of feature
designators,
ISSUE: section 5.2 para 8 is vague regarding optionality of
specifying profile in case where profile is
negotiated/determined by 'document interchange process'
<trackbot> Created ISSUE-170 - Section 5.2 para 8 is vague
regarding optionality of specifying profile in case where
profile is negotiated/determined by 'document interchange
process' ; please complete additional details at
[9]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/170/edit .
[9] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/170/edit
ISSUE-170: may also require adjustment of text for 3.3 claims
regarding document claims
<trackbot> ISSUE-170 Section 5.2 para 8 is vague regarding
optionality of specifying profile in case where profile is
negotiated/determined by 'document interchange process' notes
added
sean: smooth scrolling text
<Sean> The result of performing the processing described above
will be a sequence of N intermediate synchronic document
instances, DOCinter0… DOCinterN−1. Note: Where an
implementation is able to detect significant similarity between
two adjacent synchronic document instances, DOCinterN-1…
DOCinterN; such as for example the removal of the top line of
the content flowed into a region causing the appearance of
scrolling, then the implementation should attempt to make
ACTION-68?
<trackbot> ACTION-68 -- Sean Hayes to work with mike to provide
reference to 608/708 that defines/clarifies semantics of smooth
flowing/scrolling -- due 2012-06-07 -- PENDINGREVIEW
<trackbot>
[10]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/68
[10] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/68
[11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012May/0032.
html
[11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012May/0032.html
<Sean> then the implementation should attempt to make the
transition between presenting the two instances as smooth as
possible, e.g. following CEA-608-E, Section C.3
<scribe> ACTION: glenn to implement proosed changes from
ACTION-68 into 9.3.2 of 1.0 2nd Ed. [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action04]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-72 - Implement proosed changes from
ACTION-68 into 9.3.2 of 1.0 2nd Ed. [on Glenn Adams - due
2012-06-14].
mike: concerned about language "as smooth as possible" is
pretty vague for implementors/testing/interoperability etc
<scribe> ACTION: geoff to investigate making examples from 15
Dec 2008 email available to W3C for direct reference in spec
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - geoff
<scribe> ACTION: unassigned investigate making examples from 15
Dec 2008 email available to W3C for direct reference in spec
[recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - unassigned
sean: in text suggested, 'as smooth as possible, e.g., ...';
replace with 'as smooth as possible, in the case of a single
line scroll up, it should follow CEA-608...'
end of agenda
sean: meeting adjourned
trackbot, end meeting
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: geoff to investigate making examples from 15 Dec
2008 email available to W3C for direct reference in spec
[recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: glenn to implement proosed changes from ACTION-68
into 9.3.2 of 1.0 2nd Ed. [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: glenn to investigate correctness of 9.3.3 (7)
w.r.t. XSL-FO semantics, and report back to WG [recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: glenn to verify whether XSL-FO semantics of
absolutely positioned block container is in relation to 'page'
(i.e., root container in TTML terms) [recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: sean to create a new, separate issue for CP2
(extent/origin) [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: unassigned investigate making examples from 15
Dec 2008 email available to W3C for direct reference in spec
[recorded in
[20]http://www.w3.org/2012/06/07-tt-minutes.html#action06]
[End of minutes]
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:57 AM, Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com> wrote:
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> Agenda
>
> Chair: Sean Hayes
>
> Agenda+ Assign Scribe
>
> Agenda+ Discussion on profile text
>
> Agenda+ Discussion on proposed text for smooth scrolling
>
> Agenda+ Discussion on Change Proposal 002 (origin and extent on block
> elements) [2]
>
> Agenda+ update on action 51
>
> Agenda+ update on action 53 (issue 156 missing #feature)
>
> Agenda+ update on action 54 (behavior on feature not mentioned)
>
> Links to Key Documents
>
> [1] Draft Charter at http://www.w3.org/2012/02/timed-text-wg-charter.html
> [2] http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal002
> [3] TTML Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>
> Reference
>
> Tracker (Issues and Actions): http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker
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