- From: Monica Martin (MS OPEN TECH) <momartin@microsoft.com>
- Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 19:40:34 +0000
- To: "'public-tt@w3.org'" <public-tt@w3.org>
Dec 6 minutes: http://www.w3.org/2012/12/06-tt-minutes.html,text 
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   [1]W3C
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                               - DRAFT -
                Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
06 Dec 2012
   See also: [2] IRC log
      [2] http://www.w3.org/2012/12/06-tt-irc
Attendees
   Present
          glenn, mmartin3, +1.650.458.aabb, pal, Plh, mijordan,
          +1.858.882.aacc, +1.858.882.aadd, mike
   Regrets
   Chair
          SV_MEETING_CHAIR (mmartin3: Philippe in lieu of Sean Hayes)
   Scribe
          Monica
Contents
     * [3]Topics
         1. [4]iana response
         2. [5]SDP-US
         3. [6]Update on issues reassigned to TTML.next
     * [7]Summary of Action Items
     __________________________________________________________
   <trackbot> Date: 06 December 2012
   <mmartin3> start trackbot, #tt
   <glenn> already started
   <mmartin3> thanks glenn
   <glenn> mmartin3: if you see that RRSAgent, Zakim are already
   joined, then likely someone has already issued the start
   meeting command to trackbot
   <mmartin3> Chair not present
   <mmartin3> Philippe officiating
   <mmartin3> scribenick: Monica
   <mmartin3> c/mmartin3
iana response
   <mmartin3> glenn: Concrete annex in TTML 1.0 SE
   <mmartin3>
   [8]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-df
   xp.html
      [8] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html
   <glenn>
   [9]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-df
   xp.html#concrete-encoding
      [9] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#concrete-encoding
   <mmartin3> pal: Discuss should vs. shall.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Against SE not SDP-US.
   <mmartin3> plh: What about IANA response?
   <mmartin3> glenn: Can we call it an XML MIME type without a
   requirement on use of XML.
   <mmartin3> ....Question raised by Mike Dolan.
   <mmartin3> plh: Template for media type.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Need to update.
   <mmartin3> plh: Any objections?
   <glenn>
   [10]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-d
   fxp.html#media-type-registration
     [10] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#media-type-registration
   <mmartin3> glenn: Annex C
   <mmartin3> plh: There were are a series of comments that need
   to be normalized to update the SE.
   <mmartin3> plh: Edit existing template.
   <mmartin3> See:
   [11]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Nov/0023.
   html
     [11] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Nov/0023.html
   <mmartin3> (thread)
   <mmartin3> mike: Char set was discussed.
   <plh> "In the absence of other requirements, a TTML document
   should be concretely encoded as a well-formed XML 1.0 [XML 1.0]
   document using the UTF-8 character encoding."
   <mmartin3> mike: Should for both XML and UTF-8.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Applies to both.
   <mmartin3> ...Don't want to trigger substantive changes in SE.
   <mmartin3> mike: Be clear with title of Section G.
   <mmartin3> mike: G Specific encodings G.1 XML Encoding
   <mmartin3> plh: Why not update Conformance section instead?
   <mmartin3> glenn: Wouldn't this trigger more than an editorial
   update?
   <mmartin3> c/glenn/plh
   <mmartin3> stet
   <mmartin3> plh: Doesn't matter where it is.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Could put in Conformance section and link to
   G.
   <mmartin3> plh: Make appropriate references in Conformance
   section.
   <mmartin3> ...IANA - point to a version.
   <mmartin3> ...Will reply to IANA and indicate we will reapply
   once we publish SE.
   <mmartin3> mike: Timing?
   <glenn>
   [12]http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-d
   fxp.html#common-styling
     [12] http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ttml/raw-file/tip/ttml10/spec/ttaf1-dfxp.html#common-styling
   <mmartin3> glenn: Actions open and new edition with a TBD
   (Appendix N) on styling. Q1 CY 13
   <mmartin3> plh: We should publish now.
   <mmartin3> mike: Use example we have ready
   <mmartin3> ...Publish now.
   <mmartin3> plh: Publish.
   <mmartin3> mmartin3: Agree. We also need to add displayAlign
   feature to be consistent with changes to be included in TTML
   1.0 SE.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Other open issues.
   <mmartin3> Issue-172
   <mmartin3> Issue-173
   <mmartin3> Related to SDP-US and Unicode.
   <mmartin3> plh: Publish after resolution?
   <mmartin3> glenn:
   <mmartin3> Agree.
   <mmartin3> ...14 issues open to 1.0.
   <mmartin3> plh: Prefer to go ahead and publish 1.0 SE.
   <mmartin3> ...Discuss next week.
SDP-US
   <plh> Monica: Glenn did some of the changes related to issues
   @@ and 190
   <plh> ... will take it if offline with Glenn
   <plh> Glenn: ok
   <mmartin3> mmartin3; Editorial changes so we can publish for
   Last Call and notify Chairs.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Wasn't sure how to update editorial.
   <mmartin3> ...displayAlign?
   <mmartin3> ...constrain feature?
   <mmartin3> ...use of center?'
   <mmartin3> mike: No opinion.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Center may not be required.
   <mmartin3> ...not in 608 document perhaps.
   <mmartin3> mmartin3: Also discuss with Sean.
Update on issues reassigned to TTML.next
   <plh> issue-188?
   <trackbot> ISSUE-188 -- Bounding SDP-US rendering complexity --
   open
   <trackbot>
   [13]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/188
     [13] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/188
   <plh> reassigned to TTML.next
   <plh> issue-184?
   <trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- set animation is not taken is not
   account in the computed style set -- open
   <trackbot>
   [14]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/184
     [14] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/184
   <mmartin3> mike: Proposal to address all open issues that
   affect SDP-US in updates for TTML 1.0 Second Edition. We can
   handle the other issues in a subsequent TTML 1.0 edition or in
   1.1.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Moratorium Dec 15.
   <mmartin3> ..to publish
   <mmartin3> ,,,can we get SE out?
   <plh> "No publications between 14 December 2012 and 2 Jan
   2013."
   [15]https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2012AprJun/0093
   .html
     [15] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2012AprJun/0093.html
   <mmartin3> ...internal last call?
   <mmartin3> plh: We don't have time and we need to talk to
   director.
   <mmartin3> ...Get done in Jan 2013 for SE.
   <mmartin3> mike: DECE is publishing second week of Jan so if we
   can get this done by that time.
   <mmartin3> plh: Need internal draft for TTWG by Dec 20; be
   ready with issues and proposals for inclusion of TTML 1.0 SE.
   Start review period around Dec 20. 1st week of Jan we make a
   decision and then publish by the second week.
   <mmartin3> No objections.
   <mmartin3> EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE ISSUES W/PROPOSALS FOR TTML
   1.0 SE ON DEC 13.
   <mmartin3> glenn: Will update media section.
   <mmartin3> ...mike will summarize the media type record for
   Glenn.
   <mmartin3> plh: Propose template.
   <mmartin3> action mike create updated template and summary of
   media type record for Glenn.
   <trackbot> Created ACTION-133 - Create updated template and
   summary of media type record for Glenn. [on Mike Dolan - due
   2012-12-13].
   <mmartin3> mmartin3: Last Call timing?
   <mmartin3> plh: Suggest 4 weeks.
   <mmartin3> ...In line with process.
   <mmartin3> ...4 weeks after holiday.
   <mmartin3> ...what is most important?
   <mmartin3> mmartin3: Be ready at same time.
   <mmartin3> ...Can't we publish with the editorial updates?
   <mmartin3> glenn: Resolve displayAlign.
   <mmartin3> plh: Any objections to on publish?
   <mmartin3> mike: No
   <mmartin3> plh: Has to be done by Dec 12.
   <mmartin3> plh: AOB?
   <mmartin3> Adjourned.
   <glenn> trackbot, end meeting
   <mmartin3> trackbot, list attendees
Summary of Action Items
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Monica J Martin
Senior Program Manager
Microsoft Open Technologies, Inc. 
A subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation
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