- From: Glenn Adams <glenn@skynav.com>
- Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 09:03:08 -0600
- To: Sean Hayes <Sean.Hayes@microsoft.com>
- Cc: "public-tt@w3.org" <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACQ=j+fAajcLeXC8sPVmQfejw8-XttcxBFMwbwZjLaRBUx9KSQ@mail.gmail.com>
- DRAFT - Timed Text Working Group Teleconference 05 Apr 2012 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Apr/0002.html See also: [3]IRC log [3] http://www.w3.org/2012/04/05-tt-irc Attendees Present Andrew_Kirkpatrick, glenn, mike, sean, cpc-jasonlivingst (jason) Regrets Chair sean Scribe glenn Contents * [4]Topics 1. [5]new issues 2. [6]open actions 3. [7]new issues * [8]Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 05 April 2012 <scribe> scribenick: glenn sean: introduces new member, jason, from cpc ... asks for others to introduce themselves also new issues ISSUE-166? <trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- authoritative schemaLocation for authoritative schemas like TTML -- open <trackbot> [9]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/166 [9] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/166 sean: need to post a schema online for tool access glenn: should be able to do so, but may want to combine modules into single resource mike: do tools need one resource? glenn: maybe not action glenn to work with plh to create accessible schema <trackbot> Created ACTION-55 - Work with plh to create accessible schema [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-04-12]. mike: single file is desirable open actions ACTION-41? <trackbot> ACTION-41 -- Sean Hayes to ACTION: Sean to start the Note on how to use TTML with HTML5/CSS [recorded in ] [10]http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03] -- due 2012-04-01 -- OPEN [10] http://www.w3.org/2012/02/09-ttml-minutes.html#action03 <trackbot> [11]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41 [11] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/41 sean: wip ACTION-44? <trackbot> ACTION-44 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to put in place a new errata and ask plh to set up the redirect to it -- due 2012-03-08 -- PENDINGREVIEW <trackbot> [12]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44 [12] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/44 sean: wip ACTION-51? <trackbot> ACTION-51 -- Glenn Adams to review and draft CP for resolving ISSUE-151 -- due 2012-03-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [13]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/51 [13] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/51 ACTION-52? <trackbot> ACTION-52 -- Sean Hayes to draft CP for resolving ISSUE-154 -- due 2012-03-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/52 [14] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/52 ACTION-53? <trackbot> ACTION-53 -- Glenn Adams to address or draft CP to resolve ISSUE-156 -- due 2012-03-29 -- OPEN <trackbot> [15]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/53 [15] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/53 glenn: wip on these new issues ISSUE-165? <trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- allowing set to animate more than one attribute. -- open <trackbot> [16]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/165 [16] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/165 general agreement on adding this feature expressed in v.next RESOLUTION: add support for animation of multiple attrs as described in ISSUE-165 mike: asks if we would support fragment or document updates ... can update documents today ... if set becomes complicated, may make fragment or document updates more attractive sean: shouldn't make too complicated without considering update concepts action sean to write CP for performing multiple attribute animation with set, per issue-165 <trackbot> Created ACTION-56 - Write CP for performing multiple attribute animation with set, per issue-165 [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-04-12]. action glenn to populate a ttml11 directory for authoring v.next, referring to existing ttml10 materials in way that best supports synchronization with changes in ttml10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-57 - Populate a ttml11 directory for authoring v.next, referring to existing ttml10 materials in way that best supports synchronization with changes in ttml10 [on Glenn Adams - due 2012-04-12]. ISSUE-160? <trackbot> ISSUE-160 -- Centered flush left captions -- open <trackbot> [17]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/160 [17] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/160 sean: solution will need to introduce margin props and automatic width computations ... has been looking at css3 for help glenn: perhaps the new xsl-fo 2.0 reqs deals with content shrink fit action sean to draft CP for adding margin suppport <trackbot> Created ACTION-58 - Draft CP for adding margin suppport [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-04-12]. action sean to draft CP for adding content shrink fit features <trackbot> Created ACTION-59 - Draft CP for adding content shrink fit features [on Sean Hayes - due 2012-04-12]. RESOLUTION: to define support for margins no objection RESOLVE: to investigate support for content shrink fit ISSUE-20? <trackbot> ISSUE-20 -- Region border not supported -- open <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/20 [18] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/20 sean: EIA 708 defines windows (regions) with borders ... but TTML does not presently define borders ... wonders whether this is important for smpte jason: almost all captions in US are authored for 608, and very little use of 708 features ... borders not being used in real world (of broadcast) ... [in US markets] mike: need to keep user controls separate from authored/exchanged content ... more serious compliance issues than borders RESOLUTION: not to introduce borders in v.next at this time; i.e., to defer this feature ISSUE-21? <trackbot> ISSUE-21 -- window anchor points not supported? -- open <trackbot> [19]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/21 [19] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/21 ISSUE-22? <trackbot> ISSUE-22 -- window fade in/out not supported? -- open <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/22 [20] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/22 sean: these again are 708 features that TT does not presently support ... window anchor points allow relative (percentage) based positioning of 708 windows (i.e., TT regions) ... what do people think about the need for these features? jason: more a matter of user control (for window positioning); content isn't using; most decoders don't support correctly RESOLUTION: defer both authored non-absolute region positioning and fades mike: smpte is in process of reviewing 103 regs [?]; this might better be discussed in smpte then reintroduced here if needed sean: sure, if smpte wishes to provide further input, that would be great ISSUE-23? <trackbot> ISSUE-23 -- intermediate animation of extent -- open <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/23 [21] http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/23 ISSUE-21 defer ISSUE-22 defer <mike> "103 regs" = US 47CFR79.103 [22]http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/201 0/db0720/FCC-10-129A1.pdf [22] http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2010/db0720/FCC-10-129A1.pdf ISSUE-21: defer <trackbot> ISSUE-21 window anchor points not supported? notes added ISSUE-22: defer <trackbot> ISSUE-22 window fade in/out not supported? notes added sean: table ISSUE-23 for now ... all props are discretely animatable with set ... when will report from smpte come out? mike: will update group next week trackbot, end meeting Summary of Action Items [End of minutes] __________________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [23]scribe.perl version 1.136 ( [24]CVS log) $Date: 2012/04/05 14:56:48 $ __________________________________________________________ [23] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [24] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/ Scribe.perl diagnostic output [Delete this section before finalizing the minutes.] This is scribe.perl Revision: 1.136 of Date: 2011/05/12 12:01:43 Check for newer version at [25]http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ [25] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/ Guessing input format: RRSAgent_Text_Format (score 1.00) Succeeded: s/wipo/wip/ Succeeded: s/documen/document/ Found ScribeNick: glenn Inferring Scribes: glenn Default Present: Andrew_Kirkpatrick, +1.858.847.aaaa, +44.154.558.aabb, +1.301.738.aacc, glenn, mike, sean, cpc-jasonlivingst Present: Andrew_Kirkpatrick +1.858.847.aaaa +44.154.558.aabb +1.301.738 .aacc glenn mike sean cpc-jasonlivingst Agenda: [26]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Apr/0002.html Found Date: 05 Apr 2012 Guessing minutes URL: [27]http://www.w3.org/2012/04/05-tt-minutes.html People with action items: [26] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2012Apr/0002.html [27] http://www.w3.org/2012/04/05-tt-minutes.html End of [28]scribe.perl diagnostic output] [28] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
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