- From: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 14:54:45 +0100
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Minutes of TT WG Teleconference on 01/15/04 Attendees Glenn Adams (XFSI, Chair, Scribe) [GA] Mike Dolan (invited expert) [MD] Geoff Freed (WGBH/NCAM, scribe) [GF] David Kirby (BBC) [DK] Thierry Michel (W3C) [TM] Dave Singer (Apple) [DS] Regrets Erik Hodge (RealNetworks) [EH] Sean Hayes, Microsoft (SH) Absent ************************************************************************ Draft Agenda ************************************************************************ 1. Follow-Up on Input from David Pawson Re: TT-AF-1-0-REQ [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2004Jan/0000.html 2. Scrolling Behavior [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2004Jan/0024.html 3. Open Action Review ************************************************************************ 1. Follow-Up on Input from David Pawson Re: TT-AF-1-0-REQ ************************************************************************ [DK] Points out that syncmaster is not quite right in my example. In this sort of situation, audio still serves as timing master, yet text would serve as cueing mechanism to traverse audio timeline. [GA] Perhaps this should better be expressed with SMIL2 syncBehavior. Possibly SMIL2 needs more equipment to handle this? Worth investigating. ************************************************************************ 2. Scrolling Behavior ************************************************************************ [DS] Describes [2] as initial work on understanding needed scrolling support. [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2004Jan/0024.html [DK] Asks about relationship between temporal fill mode and scrolling. [GA] Wonders if temporal fill mode is simply higher level (as in more general) authorial intent, while scrolling parameters are fairly low level; e.g., a user agent that processes temporal fill mode params could potentially map to scrolling params to implement behvaior. Action: [DS] Does scroll-in start when text is invisible or when has just filled region in scrolling direction? [DS] Asks about getting copies of EIA 608/708 demos. [GF] Will check. Perhaps make part of agenda to repeat demo. ************************************************************************ 3. Liaison Status ************************************************************************ [GA] Asks [DS] about status of MPEG-4 Part 17. [DS] Work is progressing, close to DIS. [GA] Asks [MD] about status of D27-SDE (Subtitle Data Essence). [MD] Significant controversy over timing. Split between support for (use of) relative and absolute time. [MD] Notes that DC28.10 (payload) and DC28.20 (packaging) are working on subtitles for digital cinema. Action: [MD] Will forward info on work of D27-SDE and provide instructions for how SMPTE members may be able to get DC28 material. ************************************************************************ 4. Open Action Review ************************************************************************ Action: [SH] Will investigate use of media queries in this context and report back. Remains open. Action: [DS with help of Paul Nelson and Peter Lofting] Write RFC to register appropriate opentype/truetype font types as MIME media types, suggest model of "application/font-<font-type-name>", e.g., "application/font-truetype". [DS] Sent mail to IETF Area Directors inquiring as to whether we can Leave open until some resolution. Action: [GA] Make proposal regarding use of Xlink vocabulary or "src" attribute. Remains open. Action: [GF] Investigate whether to use IRIs instead of URIs? Note: XPointer and Namespaces in 1.1 use IRIs? [GF] will work on formulation of a resolution. [TM] will help. Action: [SH] Investigate use of "role" vs "class" attribute. Remains open. Action: [GA] Investigate selection of non-TT vocabulary for application of style/timing semantics. Remains open. Action: [GA] and [GF] Investigate mechanism for cascading semantics and whether to support cascading on either or both logical and presentation flowed vocabularies. Remains open. Action: [GA] to package above comments for review by TTWG, then send to commenters once accepted. Done. Follow-On Action: [GA] Draft new requirement on "Integrability" in general terms that should not impact testing or implementation requirements. Action: [GA] incorporate agreed changes into TT-AF-1-0-REQ in preparation for publishing final W3C Note. Remains open. Action: [SH] will review and propose subset of aural parameters (see R305). Remains open. Action: [GA] to request clarification from David Pawson on intent of comment. Done. ************************************************************************ 7. Next Meetings ************************************************************************ 01/22/04 - Telecon 01/29/04 - Telecon 02/04/04 - F2F - WGBH, Cambridge 02/05/04 - F2F - WGBH, Cambridge 02/06/04 - F2F - WGBH, Cambridge ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ START SUMMARY ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *** RESOLUTIONS *** *** OPEN ACTION ITEMS *** Action: [SH] Will investigate use of media queries in this context and report back. Action: [DS with help of Paul Nelson and Peter Lofting] Write RFC to register appropriate opentype/truetype font types as MIME media types, suggest model of "application/font-<font-type-name>", e.g., "application/font-truetype". Action: [GA] Make proposal regarding use of Xlink vocabulary or "src" attribute. Action: [GF] Investigate whether to use IRIs instead of URIs? Note: XPointer and Namespaces in 1.1 use IRIs? Action: [SH] Investigate use of "role" vs "class" attribute. Action: [GA] Investigate selection of non-TT vocabulary for application of style/timing semantics. Action: [GA] and [GF] Investigate mechanism for cascading semantics and whether to support cascading on either or both logical and presentation flowed vocabularies. Action: [GA] to package above comments for review by TTWG, then send to commenters once accepted. Action: [GA] Draft new requirement on "Integrability" in general terms that should not impact testing or implementation requirements. Action: [GA] incorporate agreed changes into TT-AF-1-0-REQ in preparation for publishing final W3C Note. Action: [SH] will review and propose subset of aural parameters (see R305). *** OPEN ISSUES *** Issue: Whether to use XLink vocabulary, e.g., as used consistently by SVG, or use "src" attribute as apparently will be done in XHTML2? Issue: Whether to use IRIs instead of URIs? Note: XPointer and Namespaces in 1.1 use IRIs? Issue: Should we use "class" instead of "role"? Issue: Probably want to permit in logical content mode the selection of content based on generic XML features of non-TT namespace descriptive markup, e.g., for applying style and timing semantics, in which case an appropriate TT container element shall be implied based on nearest ancestor TT namespace element. Issue: Need to think about cascading semantics; how to express, how to apply, etc. Possibly use CSS semantics here as well. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ END SUMMARY ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thierry MICHEL W3C/ERCIM
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