- From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2020 10:51:56 -0500
- To: public-transportation-data@w3.org
- Cc: Mark Fox <msf@mie.utoronto.ca>, George Percivall <gpercivall@opengeospatial.org>, Clemens Portele <portele@interactive-instruments.de>, "Rittmuller, Robert (VOLPE)" <robert.rittmuller@dot.gov>, Kenneth Vaughn <kvaughn@trevilon.com>, Megan Katsumi <katsumi@mie.utoronto.ca>
- Message-ID: <fc64a3d4577fbba821f799c35f3d34e51880f140.camel@w3.org>
Moving discussion to public-transportation-data mailing list that I created and announced last week for this sort of topic. https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-automotive/2020Feb/0060.html On Tue, 2020-02-18 at 15:22 +0000, Rittmuller, Robert (VOLPE) wrote: > No objections! I agree, this would be well served by having the > conversation moved over to the mailing list. Thanks again for > elevating this up to the right level. > > Thanks, > RJ > > On 2/18/20, 10:21 AM, "Ted Guild" <ted@w3.org> wrote: > > RJ, > > Any objection to me moving this over to the new mailing list? > > George or Clemens, > > OGC and TC211 both have observations ontologies. Roadway weather > event/conditions may be served with combination of the route > ontology > Clemens is working on, observations over time (TimeseriesML) and > NTCIP > 1204. That would follow a core/modular approach over monolithic. > > https://www.opengeospatial.org/pressroom/pressreleases/3158 > > > https://www.ntcip.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/NTCIP1204v0308r3withErrata.pdf > > On Mon, 2020-02-17 at 09:28 -0600, Kenneth Vaughn wrote: > > While I am unaware of a complete data model for road-weather > per se > > (e.g., a timeline analysis), NTCIP 1204 does provide data > definitions > > for reporting current road-weather conditions. If this is of > > interest, I could easily turn this into a UML class diagram and > post. > > > > Regards, > > Ken Vaughn > > > > Trevilon LLC > > 6606 FM 1488 RD #148-503 > > Magnolia, TX 77354 > > +1-936-647-1910 > > +1-571-331-5670 cell > > www.trevilon.com > > > > > On Feb 14, 2020, at 1:20 PM, Megan Katsumi < > katsumi@mie.utoronto.ca > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Thanks, Ted! > > > Hi RJ, > > > To comment from the ISO JTC1 side of things - we don't > currently > > > have weather conditions in our ontology, but that was > definitely an > > > item that we had marked for future work. Would definitely be > > > interested in seeing the model that Volpe is working on, as > well > > > as if other groups have addressed this. As Ted mentioned, > maybe > > > this might be a good question to post to the new mailing > list. > > > > > > Best, > > > Megan > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 11:40 AM Rittmuller, Robert (VOLPE) < > > > robert.rittmuller@dot.gov> wrote: > > > > Thanks Ted, here is some additional background on what the > Volpe > > > > team is looking for. > > > > > > > > The machine learning / AI team here at Volpe is developing > a > > > > weather detection model specifically for the SHRP2 > Naturalistic > > > > Driving Study data set. The purpose of this feature > detection > > > > model will be to assist transportation safety researchers > in > > > > being able to identify adverse weather conditions for trips > as > > > > recorded in the SHRP2 Roadway Information Database (RID). > We are > > > > in the formative stages of developing the data > > > > annotation/labeling strategy and are seeking input on what > > > > standards might be informative to the development of those > > > > labels. The core concept is to be as standards-based as > possible > > > > with our data labeling strategy for this model so it has > high > > > > utility for transportation researchers working with SHRP2 > data. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > RJ > > > > > > > > On 2/14/20, 10:50 AM, "Ted Guild" <ted@w3.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > RJ, > > > > > > > > As you'll see in separate email, your inquiry and > Megan's > > > > recent > > > > prompting is encouraging me to hasten a soft launch of > this > > > > group > > > > instead of waiting for all the formalities. > > > > > > > > Adding some specific people to this message to see if > we can > > > > get any > > > > guidance, perhaps moving the conversation over to the > new > > > > mailing list. > > > > > > > > What sort of data models exist, under development or > > > > consideration for > > > > roadway weather conditions/events? > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2020-02-14 at 13:22 +0000, Rittmuller, Robert > (VOLPE) > > > > wrote: > > > > > Thanks! I did look at some of the SmartCities work > but ran > > > > into > > > > > mostly the same information/situation I was finding > > > > elsewhere. For > > > > > what we are doing, conflating some of the common > > > > designations into a > > > > > common core label structure will work as the model we > are > > > > developing > > > > > is going to be multi-label. Our target data set is > > > > currently the > > > > > SHRP2 NDS data so that limits the scope to where I > don't > > > > think we > > > > > will do much damage if there is no accepted common > > > > standard. I'll > > > > > keep an eye on what's developing in this space so at > some > > > > point in > > > > > the future we can incorporate common standards-based > > > > designations. > > > > > > > > > > -RJ > > > > > > > > > > On 2/13/20, 7:23 PM, "Ted Guild" <ted@w3.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi RJ, > > > > > > > > > > I don't and still relatively new at geospatial > ontology > > > > area. > > > > > There is > > > > > a mix of things going on in ISO's Intelligent > > > > Transportation > > > > > Systems > > > > > (ITS), SmartCities and Geospatial activities. > Some > > > > actually gets > > > > > implemented. Open Geospatial Consortium actually > gets > > > > things out > > > > > there > > > > > and implemented and I would suggest poking around > there > > > > first, > > > > > ITS > > > > > second. I have had some access inside OGC plus > they > > > > have a fair > > > > > amount > > > > > public and recently got ITS. > > > > > > > > > > I'm starting to form a cross standards body > > > > coordination > > > > > committee but > > > > > it isn't up and functional yet as this would be a > > > > perfect > > > > > question > > > > > there. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 2020-02-13 at 21:27 +0000, Rittmuller, > Robert > > > > (VOLPE) > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Ted, a completely random non-cybersecurity > question > > > > for you! I > > > > > have a > > > > > > project that’s currently looking to train a > roadway > > > > weather > > > > > event > > > > > > classifier for forward-facing video data sets. > I’ve > > > > done some > > > > > > research into what standards might exist for > > > > developing a > > > > > roadway > > > > > > weather label set but keep coming up with the > usual > > > > > meteorological > > > > > > resources. My question is this; are you aware > of any > > > > standard > > > > > > classifications of roadway weather that might > serve > > > > as a good > > > > > base > > > > > > label set for something like this? I’m really > keen on > > > > something > > > > > that > > > > > > is directly automotive and has wide > applicability for > > > > > researchers who > > > > > > might be performing searches on these types of > video > > > > data sets. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Robert Rittmuller, PMP CISSP VCP > > > > > > Safety Information Systems Division | V-311 > > > > > > Volpe Center | U.S. Department of > Transportation > > > > > > ( O: 617.494.3634 | * robert.rittmuller@dot.gov > | > > > > > 8 www.volpe.dot.g > > > > > > ov > > > > > > ( M: 978.801.1376 > > > > > > Advancing transportation innovation for the > public > > > > good > > > > > > “The future always wins. Know that the “way > we’ve > > > > always done > > > > > it” > > > > > > is almost certain to become obsolete—and soon.” > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Ted Guild <ted@w3.org> > > > > > W3C Automotive Lead > > > > > https://www.w3.org/auto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Ted Guild <ted@w3.org> > > > > W3C Automotive Lead > > > > https://www.w3.org/auto > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Megan Katsumi, PhD, MASc > > > Postdoctoral Fellow > > > Enterprise Integration Laboratory > > > Transportation Research Institute > > > University of Toronto > > > > > -- > Ted Guild <ted@w3.org> > W3C Automotive Lead > https://www.w3.org/auto > > > -- Ted Guild <ted@w3.org> W3C Automotive Lead https://www.w3.org/auto
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