- From: Daniel Dardailler <danield@w3.org>
- Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 13:46:37 +0200
- To: public-traffic@w3.org
Hello David
Thanks for the new pointers, it's important to be knowledgeable of this
work which seems well advanced and implemented. I need to better
understand what are CEN's and the EC roles in these standards, as there
may be political aspects to be considered. IPR is one potential source
of concerns when someone starts a new standard from some existing
standard.
A few comments.
First, on the logistics side, as I explained before, what this CG
(Community Group) needs is a couple of volunteers willing to act as
co-chair, editors, organizing teleconf, tracking progress, reporting,
etc. That is, ready to spend a few hours per week on it at a minimum.
If some folks are willing to try, I'm willing to spend some time
explaining how this group mgnt is done at W3C, e.g. live on the phone.
On the technical side, I need to look more closely at the DATEX II XML
schema
http://www.datex2.eu/content/xml-schema
but I already see it includes a full descriptor for Accident, with
Vehicle, person, roadtype, etc. And that it's only a tiny portion of the
whole semantics provided by DATEX.
What do you have in mind when you say "good starting point" ? Only the
Accident part ?
What would be your ideal deliverable(s) for this CG BTW ? Both in terms
of scope (just accident, or traffic in general) and choice of design
formalism (tree, graph, oo, xml, etc).
I've been pushing for describing Web ontologies in RDF/OWL or some
equivalent high level graph oriented framework from the start, but some
people were happy with XML as a starting point for instance. There is no
obligation from the W3C point of view to choose one or the other. My
concerns with starting with XML is that in practice, XML users tend to
recreate their own adhoc framework to simulate multiple inheritance, or
other logical or graph-like features already present (and standardized)
in a richer language (such as OWL). My only constraint is that I don't
want to have to learn this sort of XML-improved layer. On the other
hand, I'll happily invest time in learning a graphical-oriented ontology
editor kind of tool.
In any case, scoping should be our first task. My preference goes to a
limited scoping: road accident in their context (geo/date, vehicle,
driver condition, road type, etc). And try to think graph out of the
box.
On 2014-05-29 17:03, David Torres wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is David Torres, I work as Technical Consultant at University
> of Valencia (Spain). There is an emerging interest in Spain on Linked
> Open Data matters and I was looking for a standard ontology based on
> Traffic Information. The only group I've found is this one and I've
> just joined, but it seems is quite "idle"...
>
> I'm a kind of expert in DATEX II, a traffic model promoted in Europe
> to be the standard to use to exchange all kind of information related
> to traffic data. I think it could be a good starting point. The PSM
> (Platform Specific Model) is based in XML.
>
> Description: DATEX II (ISO 16157)
> Relevance: all kind of incident, accident, traffic data, parking
> information, CCTV, VMS, etc. It supports the use of extensions.
> Link: http://www.datex2.eu/ [1]
> Date: Current
> Status: In operation
> Language: English
> Dataset: Many (in Europe) http://www.datex2.eu/datex-node [2]
>
> PS: As long as I can see this mail list is frozen I'd like to get
> feedback about your interest by working on this new traffic ontology.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> David
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://www.webkb.org/kb/nit/accidentOntology.html
> [2] http://www.datex2.eu/datex-node
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