Re: CfO on Issue 22 - Strong objections to both options ;-(

Yikes. Tk:N makes utterly no sense to me (just re-read the spec to be sure,) so perhaps we are misunderstanding each other.

Anyone else care to have a go?

 Aleecia

> On Jun 28, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Mike O'Neill <michael.oneill@baycloud.com> wrote:
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> Yes Tk:C is only needed for OOBC. If DNT:1 or unset is sent then the server can reply saying it has detected consent (i.e. from the cookie state) by replying with Tk:C, but if the request had DNT:0 then that suffices to indicate consent (the cookie state would not matter). Usually  DNT:0 would come from a UA that had implemented the API, which the server had previously called to indicate consent. I would say the “correct” response then would be Tk: N, though other values would be technically valid.
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> From: Aleecia M. McDonald [mailto:aleecia@aleecia.com] 
> Sent: 28 June 2017 16:40
> To: Roy T. Fielding <fielding@gbiv.com>
> Cc: Matthias Schunter <mts-std@schunter.org>; public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org) (public-tracking@w3.org) <public-tracking@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: CfO on Issue 22 - Strong objections to both options ;-(
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>> On Jun 28, 2017, at 6:12 AM, Aleecia M. McDonald <aleecia@aleecia.com <mailto:aleecia@aleecia.com>> wrote:
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>> Of note, I plan to leave the table. I think T not C (as I asked to confirm in prior email) with C for out-of-band consent and not for DNT:0, but really, the spec isn't as crisp on that. It would be great to illustrate the intent here. And to get it right!
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> I’ve flipped back and forth on this a few times. I’m rather certain that DNT:0 *should* be C for consent in any sane world. It’s the whole point of a lot of things. Yet I also think the 6.5.mumble sections read as if C is only used for out-of-band consent, which may be inadvertent, or not.
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> Could someone who paid full attention while this section was drafted please let me know what the intent is? 
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> I am trying to match what has been decided, not to re-open old issues at the 11th hour. At this point if I do not like the answer it is, to quote someone we all know, my tough luck. I just want to get it right and help people understand. 
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>                Aleecia