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Re: ACTION-408 - security & fraud proposed text - Section 6.2.

From: Chris Mejia <chris.mejia@iab.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:34:22 +0000
To: Dan Auerbach <dan@eff.org>
CC: W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List <public-tracking@w3.org>, "David Wainberg - AppNexus" <david@appnexus.com>, Mike Zaneis <mike@iab.net>, "Marc Groman - NAI" <mgroman@networkadvertising.org>, Lou Mastria - DAA <lou@aboutads.info>, Nicholas Nick Doty - W3C <npdoty@w3.org>, "Peter Swire - W3C TPWG Co-Chair" <peter@peterswire.net>
Message-ID: <742D1F94-5F1C-4D65-A51C-C7E3753AEEDF@iab.net>
Dan, respectfully, I don't appreciate the assertion that I have been unnecessarily "verbose", imprecise, or ill tailored in proposing my draft language to the working group for consideration.  Those are all baseless arguments.  I've explained to you in detail, in our back and forth discussions before the due date for this action item, why my constituency (industry security professionals) felt it necessary to include the language I've included.  Despite my detailed explanations to you, you've really only replied with "it's too verbose".  So if you disagree with the actual merits of my positions, or the merits of the proposed text, let's hear that.  Otherwise, I think we are largely in agreement on substance, and you'll be ok with my proposed language.

Thanks,

Chris

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Chris Mejia
Digital Supply Chain Solutions
Ad Technology Group
Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB


On Jun 12, 2013, at 2:32 PM, "Dan Auerbach" <dan@eff.org<mailto:dan@eff.org>> wrote:

We largely agree but Chris's text was not agreed to be the version we sent out. But here's my version, which I think is more precise, appropriately tailored, and less verbose:

6.2.2.6 Detection and Prevention of Malicious or Invalid Activity

Information may be collected, retained and used to the extent reasonably necessary for detecting and preventing malicious or invalid activity. Information related to malicious or invalid activity may furthermore be retained if necessary for particular civil actions being pursued, or for particular criminal investigations that are in process. This information may be used to alter the user's experience in order to reasonably keep a service secure or prevent malicious or invalid activity.

The term "malicious or invalid activity" means:
    (a) invalid Web traffic (for instance bot activity generating impressions or clicks),
    (b) bogus, malicious or automated sign ups or form submissions,
    (c) attacks intended to disrupt the availability of a service,
    (d) malicious intrusions into corporate networks,
    (e) fraud prevention, or
    (f) abuse of a service in a way that harms the integrity or security of a service or the security of the users of a service.

On 06/12/2013 09:17 AM, Chris Mejia wrote:
David Wainberg, Dan Auerbach and I worked on this draft text.  I'm submitting it now for consideration by the wider group, as there were only small gaps between Dan and our text proposals.

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6.2.2.6 Detection, Prevention or Prosecution of Malicious, Nefarious or Invalid Activity

Data may be collected, retained and used to the extent reasonably necessary for detecting and/or preventing malicious, nefarious or disingenuous activity. Additionally, data related to malicious, nefarious or disingenuous activity may be retained when reasonably necessary to support civil or criminal prosecution of parties that conduct, support or perpetuate malicious, nefarious or disingenuous activity. This data may also be used to alter the user's experience in order to preserve or bolster the security of a site/service/user(s), or to prevent malicious, nefarious or disingenuous activity.

The term "malicious, nefarious or disingenuous activity" means:
    (a) disingenuous Web traffic/server requests (for example: non-human activity generating bogus server requests, ad-impressions or clicks);
    (b) bogus, malicious, automated or non-human Web-form submissions;
    (c) attacks intended to disrupt a site, service or user experience;
    (d) malicious or nefarious intrusions, or attempts to intrude into private or corporate networks;
    (e) fraudulent activity, including any activity that's purpose is to defraud a site, service or users of a site or service;
    (f) any activity that's reasonably determined to abuse, or attempts to abuse a site/service/user in any way.
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