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Re: [ISSUE-5] What is the definition of tracking?

From: Jeffrey Chester <jeff@democraticmedia.org>
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 20:24:26 -0500
Cc: John Simpson <john@consumerwatchdog.org>, Tracking Protection Working Group WG <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-id: <CF2BEF07-DD15-45F5-915D-41C4908B3B58@democraticmedia.org>
To: "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>
I also find Roy's description of tracking a very useful proposal, and look forward to the discussion.   Like John, I too wonder if we need to define this concept, as opposed to clarifying through the spec operations.

Jeffrey Chester
Center for Digital Democracy
1621 Connecticut Ave, NW, Suite 550
Washington, DC 20009

On Mar 6, 2012, at 7:46 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:

> On Mar 6, 2012, at 3:43 PM, John Simpson wrote:
>> Roy,
>> I support your definition of tracking and thank you for offering it. It should be included at least as an option in the next public working draft of the Compliance and Scope spec.
>> As you know, you and I have different views about the need for some definitions.  I'm a minimalist and behavioralist. If definitions are contentious you simply don't need to go there. A DNT spec need only state how to send the message, how to respond and what the obligations are when the message is received.  You don't need a theological or philosophical explanation of why, in my view.
>> However, if the WG believes we need to define tracking,  then your definition does so in a straight-forward way that is in keeping with user expectations.
> Thanks John,
>> I do have clarifying questions:  As I read you text it would preclude passive fingerprinting (i.e. IP address + User-Agent logs).  Am I correct?  Should we specifically call out that practice?
> Yes.  My Tracking definition includes identifying in general,
> including passive fingerprinting, and the third bullet under
> mechanisms for performing tracking is a technical description
> of "fingerprinting".  This can be highlighted in the details
> through a use-case that specifically talks about fingerprinting.
> Cheers,
> ....Roy

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