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RE: Frequency Capping

From: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:19:19 -0700
To: Tamir Israel <tisrael@cippic.ca>, "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>
CC: Peter Eckersley <peter.eckersley@gmail.com>, W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <63294A1959410048A33AEE161379C8023D19E621D9@SP2-EX07VS02.ds.corp.yahoo.com>

You've interacted with those 3rd parties as a part of your interaction with the 1st party -- as that 1st party has partnered with those 3rd parties to provide its services to you (monetization, analytics, content, widgets, etc.).  If a 1st party is transparent about those 3rd parties it works with (and/or highly discoverable through already existing web browser tools), is it fair to say you still have a choice at that point to decide to continue to interact with that 1st party?  If you disagree with a 3rd party's ability to maintain an anonymous cookie ID in relationship to the services its providing to the 1st party, you do not need to interact with that 1st party.  The choice is yours.

If there were true "harms" involved, then you may look at this through a slight different lens, but that has yet to be established.

To use a brick-n-mortar example, you do not have a right to require Wal-Mart carry a specific brand of cereal you may really like (your desire vs. their business obligation).  If you're unhappy with Wal-Mart due to this choice, you can decide to not shop at Wal-Mart.

- Shane

-----Original Message-----
From: Tamir Israel [mailto:tisrael@cippic.ca] 
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 12:56 PM
To: Roy T. Fielding
Cc: Peter Eckersley; W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: Frequency Capping

On 7/12/2012 3:12 PM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> Yes, and it has been rejected many times because the ID cookies are
> used by other features that won't be turned off by DNT.

Not so. I have never interacted and have no relationship with third 
party server X. Why does it need to be able to identify me in any way?
Received on Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:20:53 UTC

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