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Re: DNT and hearing held yesterday by US Senate Commerce Committee

From: Berin Szoka <bszoka@techfreedom.org>
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2012 18:13:38 -0400
Message-ID: <CAEjRf9+uNi-ecR2qNu-BWJfFejc9dbcwtAW4FmRsNZA5mU=jWw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kevin Kiley <kevin.kiley@3pmobile.com>
Cc: "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
And in case you missed it
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/235379-rockefeller-says-big-tech-companies-acting-like-standard-oil


Rockefeller' "constructive dialogue" with me starts at about 61 minutes in.

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 4:52 PM, Kevin Kiley <kevin.kiley@3pmobile.com>wrote:

>  FYI: Report on yesterday's meeting about DNT and Privacy held in
> Washington by the US Senate Commerce Committee...****
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> http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/185242/senate-commerce-committee-now-hearing-testimony-on-do-not-track-standard/
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> The article above contains a link to the live webcast ( now archived ) of
> the full US Senate Committee meeting.****
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> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=Hearings&ContentRecord_id=aa018084-ceea-472c-af63-97d7f44fac80
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> NOTE: The archived video of the meeting just says 'The meeting begins in a
> moment' ****
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> for 19 minutes and 49 seconds at the beginning of the video.****
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> The Meeting itself starts at +19:50 into the video file.****
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> Majority Statement****
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> Chairman John D. (Jay) Rockefeller IV****
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> U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation****
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> Witness Panel 1 ( Opening statements were made in this order... )****
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> Mr. Bob Liodice ( Speaks at +26:05 )****
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> President and CEO****
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> Association of National Advertisers****
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> PDF of his testimony...****
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> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=c1370f16-0d8f-46f4-9491-ad3570e9d335
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> Mr. Alex Fowler ( Speaks at +31:48 - Excerpts included below )****
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> Global Privacy and Policy Leader****
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> Mozilla****
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> PDF of his testimony...****
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> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=7f4cea58-80d9-4b8d-abf9-be05da130bf6
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> Mr. Peter Swire ( Speaks at +38:25 )****
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> C. William O'Neill Professor of Law****
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> The Ohio State University****
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> PDF of his testimony...****
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> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=4c73aa3c-5626-42d6-b6fe-31e3ec6ad1ca
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> Mr. Berin Szoka ( Speaks at +43:15 )****
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> President****
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> TechFreedom****
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> PDF of his testimony...****
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> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=2c68df4c-36f2-463f-867e-e00fbc37161b
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> Free-range questions from the Senate panel begin at +48:50.****
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> Excerpts ( regarding DNT and the W3C effort ) from Mr. Alex Fowler's
> (Mozilla)****
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> opening statements to the Committee...****
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> ** 45 million FireFox users are already sending/using the 'DNT' header.***
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> Mr. Alex Fowler****
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> Global Privacy and Policy Leader****
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> Mozilla****
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> PDF of his testimony...****
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> http://commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=7f4cea58-80d9-4b8d-abf9-be05da130bf6
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> [snip]****
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> Mozilla is a global community of people who have been working together
> since 1998 to build a better Internet.****
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> As an independent organization, we are dedicated to promoting openness,
> innovation, and opportunity online.****
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> Mozilla does not own or operate a search or advertising business.****
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> Our mission is to pursue the interests of users, developers and the Web as
> a whole. ****
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> Mozilla and its contributors advance our goals by making free, open source
> technologies for consumers and developers that reflect these values.****
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> Our most popular product is the Firefox Web browser used by more than 500
> million people worldwide.****
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> As a core principle, we believe that the Internet, as the most significant
> social and technological development of our time, is a precious public
> resource that must be improved and protected.****
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> Mozilla was the first browser to implement Do Not Track in March 2011
> inspired by innovations from privacy and security researchers Christopher
> Soghoian and Dan Kaminsky.****
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> When we first announced it, the ad industry was critical and Microsoft
> publicly ridiculed the feature, but the FTC strongly supported it and our
> users wanted it. ****
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> Today 9% of our users ( 45 million users ) have turned on DNT in the
> desktop version of Firefox and 18% have turned on DNT in the mobile version.
> ****
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> Microsoft has announced it will ship IE with DNT turned on by default in
> Internet Explorer 10, and soon it will be possible for users to turn on DNT
> in all major browsers.****
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> Numerous companies already honor the DNT signal, including social networks
> like Twitter, publishers like the Associated Press, and mobile advertisers
> like Jumptap, AdTruth, and more are on the way.****
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> We are building DNT into Thunderbird, our email client, and our mobile
> operating system, code named Boot2Gecko, where the user's DNT signal will
> be available to every app on the device. ****
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> In addition to our engineering contributions, a Mozilla engineer submitted
> the first standards proposal for Do Not Track, and a member of our
> community is co-chair of the W3C standards effort.****
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> Do Not Track is a simple, digital signal sent by the user via the browser
> to Web sites. ****
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> As a signal, Do Not Track does not enforce, break, control, disable or
> impair any online tracking or personalization technology.****
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> It is a signal that is sent along with Internet traffic, indicating that
> the user sitting behind the keyboard would like their privacy to be
> respected more strongly than might otherwise be the case. ****
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> To make it effective, the recipients ( Web sites and ad networks ) must
> breathe life into the signal by honoring the user's intent. ****
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> The crucial questions therefore become:****
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> What does the user intend by the DNT signal?****
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> What should a site do when it receives this signal?****
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> These questions are the subject of a consensus driven multi-stakeholder
> effort currently underway at the W3C, as I mentioned a moment ago. ****
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> The Do Not Track working group is chartered to develop a robust
> self-regulatory framework for user choice and control on the Web.****
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> While the group has agreement on most of the technical requirements of the
> protocol, there are still two competing views on what DNT should mean.****
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> One is that DNT means what it says, no 3rd party tracking of users whether
> its targeted ads or for other purposes.****
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> The other position is that DNT means no targeting, but tracking and
> collection are still acceptable. ****
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> Currently, the working group is perusing a middle ground. ** **
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> The participants are collaborating in an open process to determine both
> the technical and compliance requirements for a Do Not Track system.****
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> Despite dialogue that could sometimes be characterized as atypically
> aggressive (for standards working ****
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> groups) and even personal at times, the process has been open,
> transparent, and inclusive.****
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> The group consists of over 35 leading companies, 21 including advertisers,
> publishers, and Internet ****
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> companies, together with consumer advocates, industry trade associations,
> academics from the US ****
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> and Europe, and independent experts. ****
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> The discussions have been productive so far.****
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> The group is committed to following a consensus-based approach to achieve
> a protocol that everyone can live with. ****
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> As a member of the W3C group, we remain optimistic that the process will
> produce a meaningful standard that****
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> ultimately provides people with more choice and control related to
> targeted ads and user tracking by 3rd parties. ****
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> Together with the Administration’s multi-stakeholder process to develop a
> code of conduct that promotes****
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> transparent disclosures to consumers concerning mobile apps’ treatment of
> personal data, we are hopeful that ****
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> a more representative cadre of concerns will produce effective
> self-­‐regulatory practices without the need for legislation.. ****
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> However in the event that an open, multi-­stakeholder process is not
> successful it may be necessary to explore ****
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> regulatory measures****
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> [/snip]****
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-- 
Berin Szoka | President, TechFreedom
bszoka@techfreedom.org | @BerinSzoka
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