Re: IAB US participation as expert

Indeed, I find it rather strange that the main target of this working group
is practices for advertisers and yet one of the main groups representing
advertisers doesn't have a vote at the table... I realize that this is at
the discretion of the chairs, but we're probably all lacking some context
here. It seems that this has been raised multiple times, is it possible for
the chairs to provide more insight into why this hasn't been advanced to
date?

-Ian

On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Craig Spiezle <craigs@otalliance.org>wrote:

> As a third party participant not unlike IAB, (though OTA is not a trade
> organization), I think it is important we be inclusive of key stakeholder
> groups.  I think there continues to be confusion on the role and rights of
> members vs. invited experts.  Perhaps a simple chart can be created that
> can provide clarification, (if it already exists I apologize for missing
> it).  ****
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> If the answer is we need to be a member, we need to understand the
> landscape.   ****
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> *From:* Chris Mejia [mailto:chris.mejia@iab.net]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 08, 2012 9:33 AM
>
> *To:* Thomas Roessler - W3C
> *Cc:* Nicholas "Nick" Doty - W3C; Aleecia M. McDonald - W3C WG Co-Chair;
> Matthias Schunter - WC3 WG Co-Chair; Rigo Wenning - W3C; Marc Groman - NAI;
> Shane Wiley - Yahoo!; Brendan Riordan-Butterworth; Mike Zaneis; Kimon
> Zorbas - IAB Europe; JC Cannon - MSFT; W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List
>
> *Subject:* Re: IAB US participation as expert
> *Importance:* High****
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> Hi Thomas and Co-Chairs,****
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> Per today's Working Group conference call, where I was not allowed to
> volunteer to draft language for the work product of this group (the spec),
> I am following up yet once again on my multiple inquiries in the thread
> below and elsewhere.  To date, I don't believe we have ever received a
> formal reply from the co-chairs or the W3C on this issue, yet we (the IAB)
> were specifically invited to participate in this Working Group by the W3C
> from the early days of the working group.  We have been participating
> faithfully all along, per your request and at the request of several W3C
> members (listed below).  But if you don't want us to participate now in
> what is supposed to be an open multi-stakeholder process to define a spec
> that will affect industry, please make that clear now in writing.
>  Otherwise, please kindly formalize our participation as invited experts,
> so we may fully participate in this process.  I look forward to your prompt
> reply.****
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> Thank You Kindly,****
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> Chris****
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> Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group |
> Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB****
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> *From: *Chris Mejia - IAB <chris.mejia@iab.net>
> *Date: *Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:04 AM
> *To: *Thomas Roessler - W3C <tlr@w3.org>
> *Cc: *"Nicholas \"Nick\" Doty - W3C" <npdoty@w3.org>, "Aleecia M.
> McDonald - W3C WG Co-Chair" <aleecia@aleecia.com>, Matthias Schunter -
> WC3 WG Co-Chair <mts-std@schunter.org>, Rigo Wenning - W3C <rigo@w3.org>,
> Marc Groman - NAI <mgroman@networkadvertising.org>, Shane Wiley - Yahoo! <
> wileys@yahoo-inc.com>, Brendan Riordan-Butterworth - IAB <brendan@iab.net>,
> Mike Zaneis - IAB <mike@iab.net>, Kimon Zorbas - IAB Europe <
> vp@iabeurope.eu>, JC Cannon - MSFT <jccannon@microsoft.com>
> *Subject: *Re: IAB US participation as expert****
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> Hi Thomas,****
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> I hope this email finds you well.  I'm just following up on this thread
> again, as I have yet to receive a reply after your June 22nd note below.  I
> believe the ball is still in your court, but if you see it differently,
> please let us know.****
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> Kind Regards,****
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> Chris****
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> Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group |
> Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB | chris.mejia@iab.net |w 212-380-4711| c
> 347-949-8279 | Skype christopheramejia | AIM oskibearchris | Twitter
> @oskibearchris | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismejia****
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> *From: *Thomas Roessler - W3C <tlr@w3.org>
> *Date: *Friday, June 22, 2012 1:49 PM
> *To: *Chris Mejia - IAB <chris.mejia@iab.net>
> *Cc: *Thomas Roessler - W3C <tlr@w3.org>, Kimon Zorbas - IAB Europe <
> vp@iabeurope.eu>, "Nicholas \"Nick\" Doty - W3C" <npdoty@w3.org>,
> "Aleecia M. McDonald - W3C WG Co-Chair" <aleecia@aleecia.com>, Matthias
> Schunter - WC3 WG Co-Chair <mts-std@schunter.org>, Rigo Wenning - W3C <
> rigo@w3.org>, Mike Zaneis - IAB <mike@iab.net>, Marc Groman - NAI <
> mgroman@networkadvertising.org>, Shane Wiley - Yahoo! <
> wileys@yahoo-inc.com>, "'jccannon@microsoft.com'" <jccannon@microsoft.com>
> *Subject: *Re: IAB US participation as expert****
>
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> Thanks, Chris, for your note -- I'd love to catch up further about this
> today, but unfortunately, I'm about to run out of the room to catch my cab
> to the airport. ****
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> Let's find time to talk on 2 July, as I'll be at a conference with 14h
> days between now and next Friday.****
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> Thanks,****
>
> --
> Thomas Roessler, W3C  <tlr@w3.org>  (@roessler<https://twitter.com/roessler>
> )
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> On 2012-06-22, at 10:25 -0700, Chris Mejia wrote:****
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> Thanks Kimon!****
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> So, with the removal of all known barriers now, it would be great to know
> if there is anything else sill holding back this decision at the W3C today?
> ****
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> To summarize, we have seen formal proposals for our inclusion as "invited
> experts" to this working group now from the following W3C members:****
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>    - JC Cannon, Microsoft (before the last face-to-face)****
>    - Shane Wiley, Yahoo!****
>    - Marc Groman, NAI****
>    - Kimon Zorbas, IAB EU****
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> We look forward to participating under these terms.****
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> Best Regards,****
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>
> Chris****
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>
> Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group |
> Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB | chris.mejia@iab.net |w 212-380-4711| c
> 347-949-8279 | Skype christopheramejia | AIM oskibearchris | Twitter
> @oskibearchris | LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/chrismejia****
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> *From: *Kimon Zorbas - IAB Europe <vp@iabeurope.eu>
> *Date: *Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:16:51 +0000
> *To: *"tlr@w3.org" <tlr@w3.org>, "Nicholas \"Nick\" Doty - W3C" <
> npdoty@w3.org>, "Aleecia M. McDonald - W3C WG Co-Chair" <
> aleecia@aleecia.com>, Matthias Schunter - WC3 WG Co-Chair <
> mts-std@schunter.org>
> *Cc: *Rigo Wenning - W3C <rigo@w3.org>, Chris Mejia - IAB <
> chris.mejia@iab.net>, Mike Zaneis - IAB <mike@iab.net>
> *Subject: *IAB US participation as expert****
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> Dear all,****
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>  ****
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> we would support the invitation of our IAB US colleagues as “Invited
> Experts” to the Tracking Protection Working Group, specifically:****
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>  ****
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> - Mike Zaneis, SVP of Public Policy at IAB****
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> - Chris Mejia, Director of Ad Technology and Digital Supply Chain
> Solutions at IAB****
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> - Brendan Riordan-Butterworth, Director of Ad Technology at IAB****
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> IAB US’s expertise of the US market would be invaluable to the Working
> Group and allowing them to contribute as "full members" might help
> consolidate  industry views.****
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>  ****
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> Kind regards,****
>
> Kimon****
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> Kimon Zorbas****
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> Vice President IAB Europe****
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> IAB Europe - The Egg – Rue Barastraat 175 – 1070 Brussels - Belgium****
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> Phone +32 (0)2 5265 568****
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> Mob +32 494 34 91 68****
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> www.iabeurope.eu ****
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> IAB Europe supports the .eu domain name www.eurid.eu****
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> *IAB Europe is supported by:*****
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> Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Finland,
> France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Norway,
> Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden,
> Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine and United Kingdom representing their 5.000
> members. The IAB network represents over 90% of European digital revenues
> and is acting as voice for the industry at National and European level.***
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> *IAB Europe is powered by:*****
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> Adconion Media Group, Adobe, ADTECH, Alcatel-Lucent, AOL Advertising
> Europe, AudienceScience, BBC Advertising, CNN, CoAdvertise, comScore
> Europe, CPX Interactive, Criteo, eBay International Advertising, Expedia
> Inc, Fox Interactive Media, Gemius, Goldbach Media Group, Google, GroupM,
> Hi-Media, Koan, Microsoft Europe, Millward Brown, News Corporation,
> nugg.ad, Nielsen Online, OMD, Orange Advertising Network, PHD, Prisa,
> Publicitas Europe, Quisma, Sanoma Digital, Selligent, TradeDoubler, Triton
> Digital, United Internet Media, ValueClick, Verisign, Viacom International
> Media Networks, Webtrekk, White & Case, Yahoo! and zanox.****
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> *IAB Europe is associated with:*****
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> Advance International Media, Banner, Emediate, NextPerformance, Right
> Media, Tribal Fusion and Turn Europe****
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