Re: [VTT] Consensus call: publish VTT under the 2014 Process?

I would really like a fixed-point version of the spec. It is fine for the
spec to continue to evolve, but the range of implementations of WebVTT in
different browsers has me pulling my hair out, and it is hard to file bugs
against behavior that doesn't match the spec as the spec continues to move.
I think issuing a REC version of WebVTT is the easiest way to define a
fixed version.


On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:16 AM, Philip Jägenstedt <philipj@opera.com> wrote:

> Is the question if using http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/ as
> opposed to http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/ is OK? The
> changes are summarized in
>
> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ProcessTransition2014#What_are_the_main_changes_from_the_2005_Process.3F
>
> If the only relevant difference is skipping Last Call Working Draft, I
> don't have an issue with that.
>
> For the record, I would be happy to not take WebVTT to REC at all. I
> hope that the people who do want a WebVTT REC are also willing to do
> all of the work involved.
>
> Philip
>
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer
> <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
> > FYI: I suggested using the new publication process for the WebVTT spec in
> > the TTWG to get it to REC. Let me know if you have any issues with that.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Silvia.
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: "David Singer" <singer@apple.com>
> > Date: 4 Sep 2014 04:58
> > Subject: [VTT] Consensus call: publish VTT under the 2014 Process?
> > To: "Silvia Pfieffer" <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
> > Cc: "Nigel Megitt" <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>, "Timed Text Working Group"
> > <public-tt@w3.org>
> >
> >
> > On Sep 2, 2014, at 6:05 , Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> It would be nice to use this for WebVTT.
> >
> > Do we have consensus to do this, please?
> >
> > If you are OPPOSED to using the 2014 process for the VTT document(s),
> please
> > speak up, or I will ask for it to happen.
> >
> > I suggest I wait two weeks for a response, i.e. the deadline is the 17th
> of
> > September in this year of 2014.
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Silvia.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> FYI. At this stage I'm not proposing that we change our process: would
> >>> anyone prefer to adopt the new process for one of our Rec track
> products?
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>>
> >>> Nigel
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 02/09/2014 12:45, "Ian Jacobs" <ij@w3.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear Chairs,
> >>>>
> >>>> As announced in August [1], today W3C groups may begin to request
> >>>> publication of TR documents under the 2014 Process [2].
> >>>>
> >>>> Please note the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Pubrules [3] includes a requirement for new publications to include
> >>>>   a reference to the governing process. Respec [4] supports this new
> >>>>   requirement.
> >>>>
> >>>>   The pubrules checker user interface includes a new feature to
> >>>>   identify the governing process. For now it defaults to 2005 since
> >>>>   most documents are likely to be published under the 2005 process
> >>>>   for a while; we will change that as the balance shifts. If you are
> >>>>   checking a document to be published under the 2014 Process, please
> >>>>   select that one in the interface.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) We have updated transitions documentation for the 2014 Process [5].
> >>>>   The transitions documentation for documents published under
> >>>>   the 2005 process remains unchanged [5].
> >>>>
> >>>> 3) We have created a new version "Register an Internet Media Type
> >>>>   for a W3C Spec" [7] for the new Process.
> >>>>
> >>>> For additional information about the transition to the 2014 Process,
> >>>> please see the FAQ [8].
> >>>>
> >>>> If you have any questions, please contact me or the Webmaster
> >>>> Jérémie Astori <jeremie@w3.org>.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ian Jacobs, Head of W3C Communications
> >>>>
> >>>> [1]
> >>>>
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2014JulSep/0016.html
> >>>> [2] http://www.w3.org/2014/08/Process-20140801/
> >>>> [3] http://www.w3.org/Guide/pubrules
> >>>> [4] http://www.w3.org/respec/
> >>>> [5] http://www.w3.org/Guide/transitions2014
> >>>> [6] http://www.w3.org/Guide/transitions
> >>>> [7] http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype2014.html
> >>>> [8] https://www.w3.org/wiki/ProcessTransition2014
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>      http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs
> >>>> Tel:                       +1 718 260 9447
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> > David Singer
> > Manager, Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> >
>
>