Re: Absolute region positioning (was Re: Alternative approach to scrolling, with demos)

How about you describe the use cases one by one and we make example WebVTT
files that show them working. Then, when we find one that we can't make to
work, we can change the spec.

Best Regards,
Silvia.
On 10 May 2014 00:46, "Christian Vogler" <christian.vogler@gallaudet.edu>
wrote:

> How much time do we have to do this work, given the timeline of the W3C
> processes?  I have been talking to consumer advocates in the US and there
> are some complicated issues about readability and rendering expectations
> that will take us time to work through and verify that WebVTT meets them.
> Some specific edge cases also might be more important than some previously
> thought.
>
> The best thing to resolve these issues would be to have easily accessible
> visual renderings of how the different proposals affect the referring of
> text in various use cases. I presume there are some scattered here and
> there across the bug tracker, but having or working on something
> consolidated that I can point folks who consume captions for a living at,
> and tell them to let us know what they think would be hugely helpful.
>
> I'm going to have to follow up again due to lack of time right now, but
> I'm also concerned about the metadata aspects of the proposed changes.
>
> More later.
>
> Christian
>
> Sent from my mobile phone.  Please excuse any touchscreen-induced
> weirdness.
> On May 9, 2014 10:33 AM, "Philip Jägenstedt" <philipj@opera.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > So what are the model features that may need to be brought into WebVTT?
>> In
>> > no particular order:
>> > 1. Independent timing of regions, e.g. so that they can be painted even
>> > when they don't contain text.
>> > 2. Ability to select for styling purposes regions including setting
>> > background and line painting colors, padding and zIndex (to define
>> > painting order if multiple regions overlap). The ::cue-region
>> > pseudo-element appears to partially fulfil this already.
>> > 3. Ability to select for styling purposes text contained within a
>> > particular region.
>> > 4. Ability to assign metadata additional to identifiers for regions.
>> (need
>> > use cases for this in a WebVTT context)
>>
>> My current focus is on simplifying regions as much as possible.
>> However, if you have strong use cases for any of these additions,
>> please do file new bugs. Example videos or video frames to illustrate
>> would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Philip
>>
>>