- From: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
- Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:48:35 +1100
- To: Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>
- Cc: Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>, Richard Eyre <rick.eyre@hotmail.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>, "public-texttracks@w3.org" <public-texttracks@w3.org>, Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
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Also, I think we should really add a link to the spec at http://dev.w3.org/html5/webvtt/ . ;-) And also to the community group at http://www.w3.org/community/texttracks/ . If you're keen, feel free to add the following links, too: * http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/track/basics/ - intro to text tracks * https://github.com/silviapfeiffer/WebVTT-with-regions - polyfill experiments by editor * http://wiki.webmproject.org/webm-metadata/temporal-metadata/webvtt-in-webm- specification for embedding WebVTT into WebM * http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-12 - specification for using WebVTT as part of HTTP Live Streaming (HLS) * http://concolato.wp.mines-telecom.fr/2013/07/28/webvtt-mp4-files-dash-and-gpac/- WebVTT in MP4 (which reminds me that a section on in-band WebVTT may be another useful addition to the page) Cheers, Silvia. On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com > wrote: > Ah excellent - I thought you might have missed it because I didn't receive > a reply email. ;-) > > Anyway, I just checked and found some typos that you may want to correct: > > 1. Typo: missed a "by" > s/Optional Cue Settings separated from the time one or more SPACE or TAB > characters/Optional Cue Settings separated from the time by one or more > SPACE or TAB characters/ > > 2. Non-readable sentences: > "Using timestamp tags can build Karaoke Style tracks." > I think you mean something like: > "Timestamp tags can be used to build Karaoke style tracks." > > 3. Typo: missed "are" > s/Timestamp tags can also be used for Paint On captions, which placed > independently from each other and don't erase what was already on the > screen/Timestamp tags can also be used for Paint On captions, which are > placed independently from each other and don't erase what was already on > the screen/ > > Other than that, it's really looking awesome! > > Cheers, > Silvia. > > > > On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Silvia, >> >> Yes, I incorporated all feedback received on this thread into the >> document. Is there something I missed? >> >> Carlos >> On Jan 11, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Carlos, >> >> I gave you feedback on the other thread - has that been incorporated? >> >> Thanks, >> Silvia. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I think I'm good with the tutorial. It could use one more round of >>> feedback before moving it to the WPD site. >>> >>> That bring another question, what is the best place for the VTT tutorial >>> within the WPD doc web site? I haven't made up my mind if it falls under >>> HTML, Accessibility or general web concepts. >>> >>> Any ideas? >>> >>> Carlos >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Jay, >>>> >>>> I added the links as notes to the supported browsers table. Can you >>>> think of a better placement for the links? >>>> >>>> Carlos >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Jay Munro <jaymunro@microsoft.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Carlos, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Looks good, though here's a bit more: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Under IE, you've got documentation on the HTML5 Rocks site. While a >>>>> good site, Microsoft has a lot of Text Track docs, with a number of >>>>> examples. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This is our technology start page: >>>>> >>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ie/bg123962.aspx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here's where all the API docs are. The text track API is mixed in with >>>>> the audio/video/media elements. >>>>> >>>>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/library/ie/hh772500.aspx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There's a set of text track samples here, including one that uses meta >>>>> data to create a slide show. MSDN locks us out of actually having the demo >>>>> online, so it might be a good candidate to put on WebPlatform. >>>>> >>>>> http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lastly, though a little dated, there's a demo on ietestdrive.com that >>>>> has an editor that will create WebVTT files (as well as TTML files). I've >>>>> been meaning to get around to an update, but things have been busy. >>>>> >>>>> http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Graphics/CaptionMaker/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> IE HTML5 Timed Text Track sample in JavaScript, HTML for Visual >>>>> Studio 2010 >>>>> The examples shown here use the HTML5 track element, and show you how >>>>> to add video with captioning and other features to your webpages. >>>>> Read more...<http://code.msdn.microsoft.com/ie/HTML5-Timed-Text-Track-9fddea75> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 14, 2013 10:59 AM >>>>> *To:* Richard Eyre >>>>> *Cc:* Silvia Pfeiffer; David Singer; public-webplatform@w3.org; >>>>> public-texttracks@w3.org; Doug Schepers >>>>> >>>>> *Subject:* Re: VTT authoring guide on Web Platform Docs? >>>>> >>>>> Richard, >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the feedback. >>>>> >>>>> I've updated the information regarding Firefox Nightly and added >>>>> vtt.js to the lists of players and polyfills. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What bug should I track for Cue formatting issues? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Richard Eyre <rick.eyre@hotmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm not sure if this got through to the list so if it did, apologies. >>>>>> I don't mean to spam the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Looks good at a quick pass Carlos. Two things: >>>>>> >>>>>> * Firefox Nightly is enabled by default now. A patch landed a few >>>>>> days ago for that. >>>>>> * Underneath the polyfill section you can list >>>>>> https://github.com/mozilla/vtt.js. It's a JavaScript implementation >>>>>> of the WebVTT spec (not the track spec). In the future it might evolve into >>>>>> a full <track> polyfill. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rick >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Carlos Araya <carlos.araya@gmail.com >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I took a first stab at writing the VTT tutorial. It's currently >>>>>>> hosted in Github to make it easier for people to contribute examples and >>>>>>> edits to the page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://github.com/caraya/vtt-demos/blob/master/video_captioning.md >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please take a look at it and let me know what you think needs to be >>>>>>> changed and what other things I should add. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Carlos >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer < >>>>>>> silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Great to hear your interest! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would indeed encourage to write about implemented reality, even >>>>>>>> though that will probably continue to improve over the next few >>>>>>>> months. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You could explain the features as specified and then explain what >>>>>>>> works in the browsers now. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This could, in fact, contribute to the testing efforts of the >>>>>>>> <track> >>>>>>>> element in HTML, see http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/Testing . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Silvia. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Carlos Araya < >>>>>>>> carlos.araya@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> > I'd be interested in looking at working on something like this. >>>>>>>> However the first question that comes to mind is whether we write to the >>>>>>>> way the specification is written or to the way it is supported. As far as I >>>>>>>> know there is no complete implementation of the VTT spec available,is there? >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Carlos >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Sent from my iPad >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 12:43 PM, David Singer <singer@apple.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Hi >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> it would be really cool to have an authoring guide for VTT >>>>>>>> (unlike the specification, which is essentially an implementation guide) on >>>>>>>> WebPlatformDocs. There are some possible starting points, below, though of >>>>>>>> course to use any of this material we’d need to work with the authors and >>>>>>>> get permission. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> Is there someone who would like to pull this together and >>>>>>>> spearhead getting a good authoring guide on this important site? >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/an-introduction-to-webvtt-and-track/ >>>>>>>> >>> http://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTML/WebVTT >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/10/12/html5-video-captioning.aspx >>>>>>>> >>> http://www.delphiki.com/webvtt/ >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> http://demosthenes.info/blog/580/Make-Online-Video-Accessible-And-Searchable-With-WebVTT >>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> http://www.accessiq.org/news/features/2013/03/webvtt-and-captioning-on-the-web >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> David Singer >>>>>>>> >> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc. >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
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