Re: [blink-dev] WebVTT vs TTML Features

On 11/12/2013 22:11, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com> wrote:

>Hi Andreas,
>
>thanks for the thoughtful points.
>
>On Dec 11, 2013, at 8:52 , Andreas Tai <tai@irt.de> wrote:
>
>> The decision to build upon SRT instead of  TTML and the reasons that
>>led to this decision have to be respected. But it seems not correct to
>>me now to deny that TTML is a rendering format for "web distribution of
>>captions" and ignore the fact that it is widely used for this purpose.
>>It was used before WebVTT reached a stable status. This fact seems not
>>to be well known and it is often mistrusted so indeed a list which
>>content providers already use TTML would make this more transparent.
>>
>> It seems like an irony of the story that the format that were added at
>>a later stage for the same purpose makes a claim to be the only
>>legitimate candidate for that purpose.
>
>I think actions or words that attempt to denigrate, pigeonhole, spindle,
>fold, or mutilate [1] either format are not helpful.  We need to focus
>our energies on what we care about most: making multimedia web content
>accessible.

Agreed - and we need to recognise the sensitivities and try to avoid
actions or words that could be interpreted as being derogatory even if
they're not intended as such.

As we've seen, we may need to be more explicit about exactly what we mean
than we'd normally be while we're collectively developing a common
understanding and developing accepted shorthands or jargon.

>>We have two W3C rendering formats for captions on the web. This is not a
>>pleasant situation. But we have to cope with it. The new development to
>>combine both efforts in one group is a good, pragmatic start. It can
>>work out if on both sides co-existence on the same field is accepted.
>
>Completely agree.

Likewise.

Nigel


>
>[1]
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Not_Fold,_Spindle_or_Mutilate#cite_note-1
>
>
>David Singer
>Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>



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