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Re: Ref-test image flakiness when web fonts are used

From: Koji Ishii <kojii@chromium.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 12:36:06 +0900
Message-ID: <CACQRE+R_Vw4m8KAJO-dcDMhRgF9gDOQdqnAtxSTY1a2sCUfKPQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Geoffrey Sneddon <me@gsnedders.com>
Cc: Dominik Röttsches <drott@chromium.org>, Kunihiko Sakamoto <ksakamoto@chromium.org>, Philip Jägenstedt <foolip@chromium.org>, James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk>, public-test-infra <public-test-infra@w3.org>
Thank you Geoffrey, that'd be great.

Could you mind to tell me which spec should this go? I'm not familiar with
specs for test runner.

Should I file a github issue for the spec?

2017/03/15 午前2:02 "Geoffrey Sneddon" <me@gsnedders.com>:

> On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 7:38 AM, Koji Ishii <kojii@chromium.org> wrote:
> > Apologies that I was late to reply to the thread I asked...
> >
> > Thank you Geoffrey for sharing the background, and I'm surprised I'm
> > sometimes there ;-O
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Geoffrey Sneddon <me@gsnedders.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> >> I think what we need to define for web-platform-tests is that for
> >>
> >> >> reftests the screenshot should be taken after the last of the
> >> >> following:
> >> >>
> >> >>  * after the document's load event has been fired
> >> >>  * the document.fonts.ready promise being fulfilled
> >> >>  * all @imports from stylesheets have been loaded and style
> recomputed
> >> >> etc.
> >> >>  * after all <uri> subresources in all stylesheets have been loaded
> >> >> etc. (so background-image, content, etc.)
> >> >>
> >> >> I think that's it?
> >
> >
> > Yes, I think the list is correct. The font loading spec says the
> > document.fonts.ready promise implies layout completes, if my reading is
> > correct.
> >
> >> > The user agent has actually painted (there seems to be a bug in blink
> >> > where
> >> > we sometimes take a screenshot before images have painted, even though
> >> > load
> >> > has fired).
> >
> >
> > Yeah, obviously we need to wait for paint, but I think it's even less
> > defined and obvious?
> >
> >>
> >> > Are there actually web apis to determine all these things?
> >>
> >> No. Which yes, makes this awkward.
> >
> >
> > So...is this something we can define or recommend somewhere? It won't be
> a
> > great situation where one vendor assumes that tests include
> > "/common/reftest-wait-for-fonts.js", while another vendor assumes the
> test
> > runner waits for these condition, no?
>
> I think we should simply define that the test runner waits for these
> conditions: I don't think we want to make every single reftest that
> relies on web fonts to have to have a bunch of JS in it (because it'll
> be virtually *all* such reftests), as there will inevitably be some
> where it gets forgotten. The perf hit in the common case (with no web
> fonts) seems like it should be sufficiently small to not be an issue.
>
> /g
>
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