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Re: [TalentSignal] citizenship requirement (and other JobPosting requirements)

From: Vicki Tardif <vtardif@google.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2020 13:02:52 -0500
Message-ID: <CAOr1obGBhFcqEsW1rRoD1Q7h1De3H8XcoRW3y+BXS5kdAGw1Mw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk>
Cc: "public-talent-signal@w3.org" <public-talent-signal@w3.org>
eligibilityToWorkRequirement seems to capture both cases. A separate
property specific to citizenship could be proposed later if it is needed.

- Vicki


On Fri, Feb 7, 2020 at 6:40 AM Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:

> Hello all, the extraordinarily observant among you may have noticed from
> the summary of progress in our first year
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/2020/02/05/one-year-in/> that
> the following properties which we proposed to schema.org a couple of
> months ago were recently accepted into the January release:
>
>    - physical requirement
>    - security clearance requirement
>    - sensory requirement
>    - applicationContact,
>    - employerOverview
>
> Missing from that list is *citizenship requirement*. This is because
> Stuart Sutton raised a point
> <https://github.com/schemaorg/schemaorg/issues/2384#issuecomment-554768395>
> that I thought was worth bringing back here for further discussion:
>
> Phil, just a thought about "citizenship requirement". In the context of
> employment, I would think that the citizenship question goes to a
> candidate's legal work eligibility. Some of what HR Open Standards focuses
> on in this regard are: (a) eligibility types (e.g., "US noncitizen
> national", "alien authorized to work"; and (b) eligibility documentation
> (e.g., "permanent resident card", "US passport", "foreign passport with
> I-94/A form" etc.). Since a "citizenship requirement" might get to some of
> it, does it do the full trick?
>
> We had proposed :
> *citizenshipRequirement:* *Defintion:* Country of applicant's citizenship. *Expected
> Type:* Country, Text, Url
>
> Would this be better:
>
> *eligibilityToWorkRequirement:
>    **Definition:* legal requirements such as citizenship, visa and other documentation required
>                for an applicant to this job.*   Expected Type:* Text
>
> I know Text is a blunt instrument here, but I am not keen on trying to
> come up with a globally applicable vocabulary for this.
>
> Are there many cases where citizenship is important if other criteria such
> as a work visa / green card are satisfied? Should we propose
> eligibilityToWorkRequirement *as well as* citizenshipRequirement or *instead
> of*? (If we suggest both we need to be careful because it won't be clear
> whether they are alternatives or both required unless we alter the
> definition).
>
> Phil
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