Re: Domain sketch

Taking a step back, I don't think we should be limited by the existing
types http://schema.org/Event and http://schema.org/Action if they don't
fit the problem at hand. Action in particular has evolved to largely be a
potential action: an act that could be performed on an object, usually
through accessing a URL. There hasn't been a lot of traction for these more
real-world actions as the model does not really fit. For example, what does
it mean for a "BefriendAction" to have a status of "FailedActionStatus"
other than in an API sense. It probably doesn't mean I said to someone,
"Will you be my friend?" and they said no. :-)

Can we take the relevant parts of Event and Action and create something
that fits this space better?

- Vicki


On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:57 AM Phil Barker <phil.barker@pjjk.co.uk> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> The issues that the discussion of this domain sketch raised have been
> continuing in a number of places, and i think they have become quite
> confusing. I don't especially want to reopen the discussion here right now,
> but will note a couple of things:
>
> 1. I have tried to summarize what I think made the discussion confusing
> <https://blogs.pjjk.net/phil/concepts-of-credentials-and-competences/>[1].
> It's my own opinion so I wrote it as a blog post so as not to give it any
> hint representing anything else. My main conclusion is that we should be
> careful in defining what mean by various terms, and in doing so be aware
> that these terms may have other meanings to folk from other contexts.
>
> 2. Alex Jackl has been editing a document, which he shared here before, on
> proposed definitions Competence and Credentials
> <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RIBR-X9yL4313f0TFccbc8S_d6n1jP0AvBsy4FYGgbA/edit#heading=h.kccyx6ndfco9>[2]
> and related things, which I think is heading in the right direction.
>
> Best regards, Phil
>
>
> 1. https://blogs.pjjk.net/phil/concepts-of-credentials-and-competences/
>
> 2.
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RIBR-X9yL4313f0TFccbc8S_d6n1jP0AvBsy4FYGgbA/edit#heading=h.kccyx6ndfco9
> On 15/08/2019 11:02, Phil Barker wrote:
>
> Hello all, I got a little feedback about the domain sketch that I've shown
> a couple of times, and have altered it accordingly, and tried to clarify
> what is and isn't currently in schema.org.
>
> Here it is again. I'm thinking about putting it on the wiki, and hoping
> that, along with the issue list
> <https://www.w3.org/community/talent-signal/wiki/Issues,_use_cases_and_requirements#Issues_open_for_consideration>,
> it might serve as a useful way of introducing what we are about and what we
> are doing.
>
> I really want to stress that it is not intended to be a complete or formal
> domain model, nor is it intended to be prescriptive. (I think that for a
> domain as big as this, with so many possible perspectives, it is premature
> to try to get consensus on a complete formal model now, if indeed that will
> ever be possible.)
>
> I would welcome feedback on whether this sketch helps, and how it might be
> improved, what needs further explanation, or anything else.
>
> Regards, Phil
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> Phil Barker <http://people.pjjk.net/phil>. http://people.pjjk.net/phil
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