Re: Reviewing our issues

I prefer Synchronized Media (but mainly because I like the sound of sync-media).

From: Lars Wallin <lars@mywomags.com>
Date: Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 11:01 AM
To: George Kerscher <kerscher@montana.com>
Cc: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>, Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>, Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>, W3C Synchronized Multimedia for Publications CG <public-sync-media-pub@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Reviewing our issues
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Resent-Date: Thursday, November 14, 2019 at 11:01 AM

Might be that I am advocating for what should be a separate spec here. This will be Media Overlays in JSON, and that is of course fine.
I have just been planning for a more dynamic usage model for synchronization in Audiobooks etc. I guess we can use WebAnnotations for images etc in Audiobooks and Video.

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:45 PM <kerscher@montana.com<mailto:kerscher@montana.com>> wrote:
I like Synchronized Narration

Best
George
From: AUDRAIN LUC <LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr<mailto:LAUDRAIN@hachette-livre.fr>>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2019 6:38 AM
To: lars@mywomags.com<mailto:lars@mywomags.com>; Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org<mailto:laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>>
Cc: Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com<mailto:marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>>; W3C Synchronized Multimedia for Publications CG <public-sync-media-pub@w3.org<mailto:public-sync-media-pub@w3.org>>
Subject: Re: Reviewing our issues

I don’t know if this is French only, but I think “narration” encompasses any kind of media: text, image, audio, vidéo…
“Synchronized Narration” means then telling the same story using different sort of media and synchronizing between them.
It’s not the media that is synchronized but the narration.

Luc

De : Lars Wallin <lars@sharemyworld.se<mailto:lars@sharemyworld.se>>
Répondre à : "lars@mywomags.com<mailto:lars@mywomags.com>" <lars@mywomags.com<mailto:lars@mywomags.com>>
Date : jeudi 14 novembre 2019 à 14:29
À : Laurent Le Meur <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org<mailto:laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>>
Cc : Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com<mailto:marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>>, W3C Synchronized Multimedia for Publications CG <public-sync-media-pub@w3.org<mailto:public-sync-media-pub@w3.org>>
Objet : Re: Reviewing our issues
Renvoyer - De : <public-sync-media-pub@w3.org<mailto:public-sync-media-pub@w3.org>>
Renvoyer - Date : jeudi 14 novembre 2019 à 14:29

Just a reminder that we want to use for audiobooks etc as well. "Narration" will feel really strange to people (I don't think it's only a me thing).

And if we can not use the word "Media" anymore within specs such as this, then we really have a problem 😉

On Thu, 14 Nov 2019, 13:09 Laurent Le Meur, <laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org<mailto:laurent.lemeur@edrlab.org>> wrote:
+1 for Sync Narration.
-1 for the addition of for Publications.

With Sync Narration we use a term which source is clearly the publishing culture. Plus, narration is one of the main properties in the JSON document representing the alternate rendition of the source content.
The issue with Sync Media is its proximity (in the W3C) with terms like Media Queries and Media & Entertainment Activity.

Laurent

Le 12 nov. 2019 à 22:14, Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com<mailto:marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>> a écrit :

Ok, let’s try this again - issue #24 is about naming. We should pick a name because audiobooks is likely going to CR, and our note is referenced by that spec. I do understand that as a CG note, we can rename our document with little consequence, but as we will be referenced informatively by a rec track document, it would be really nice to choose now and stick with it.

Based on this issue:
https://github.com/w3c/sync-media-pub/issues/24<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fsync-media-pub%2Fissues%2F24&data=02%7C01%7Claudrain%40hachette-livre.fr%7C588d3c3e79334d38118108d769069fc8%7Cf881a2c50a89483181b1c7846c49594d%7C0%7C0%7C637093349487471876&sdata=%2ByZSH%2BEENK3PwPrL%2FJQWVVyeEMMSpKf9rVOsYH3%2BvN8%3D&reserved=0>

I see these options:

Synchronized Media
Synchronized Narration
Synchronized Alternative Media

Any of them could be appended with “for Publications”.

Let’s vote. Please indicate:

1. Which of the three choices you like the most.
2. Whether you prefer to append with “for Publications” or not

We don’t need new ideas or other variations at this point. We’re a small group, so your one vote could change everything!! Voting closes by the end of this week (Nov 15 end of day in California).

Thanks
Marisa




On Oct 11, 2019, at 15:07, Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com<mailto:marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yep, that was the idea! And I see that it worked - thanks for chiming in.

And now for something completely different — I won’t call it baseurl but …
https://github.com/w3c/sync-media-pub/issues/26<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fsync-media-pub%2Fissues%2F26&data=02%7C01%7Claudrain%40hachette-livre.fr%7C588d3c3e79334d38118108d769069fc8%7Cf881a2c50a89483181b1c7846c49594d%7C0%7C0%7C637093349487471876&sdata=4CVV2Y7F5ADrKJlRT5aRG%2F%2BGM2hgTvNw29K3dEcKCTw%3D&reserved=0>

Marisa



On Oct 11, 2019, at 01:30, Romain <rdeltour@gmail.com<mailto:rdeltour@gmail.com>> wrote:

Stirring up participation with a bikeshedding naming issue, I see what you did there… well played (grin).

More seriously, +1 to using GitHub directly. Possibly with an email reminder from time to time for pressing issues which lack any comments.

Best,
Romain.



On 10 Oct 2019, at 23:03, Marisa DeMeglio <marisa.demeglio@gmail.com<mailto:marisa.demeglio@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

I plan to work in the coming days and weeks on resolving the remaining issues in our tracker, and cleaning up the draft reports.

I’d also like to engage the CG more as I do this work. Does it work best to discuss the issues on this list, or would it be preferable to use the github tracker directly?

Here’s the first issue. It’s a relatively easy one, I think:
https://github.com/w3c/sync-media-pub/issues/24<https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fw3c%2Fsync-media-pub%2Fissues%2F24&data=02%7C01%7Claudrain%40hachette-livre.fr%7C588d3c3e79334d38118108d769069fc8%7Cf881a2c50a89483181b1c7846c49594d%7C0%7C0%7C637093349487471876&sdata=%2ByZSH%2BEENK3PwPrL%2FJQWVVyeEMMSpKf9rVOsYH3%2BvN8%3D&reserved=0>

Thanks
Marisa