- From: Adrian Walker <adrianw@snet.net>
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 12:39:28 -0500
- To: joshgrob@comcast.net
- Cc: public-sws-ig@w3.org, Ian Horrocks <horrocks@cs.man.ac.uk>
Josh --
Let me say that it would be great to see any respectable form of
computational logic make it into the commercial big time.
The machine-oriented syntax of OWL and its relatives seems to be a major
hindrance. It's painful to read, and near impossible to write correctly.
Even its originators seem to agree. To quote Ian Horrocks in a recent
posting, "no sane person would write directly in OWL/SWRL/SWRL FOL syntax"
. He goes on to suggest that "we can therefore safely leave it to tool
builders to add convenience features as they see fit" .
I'd suggest that such a "disconnected" approach is a key part of the
commercial adoption problem.
A different, but still logic-based approach to commercialization is in the
"e-Government Presentation" at www.reengineeringllc.com . There's an
online system at the same site that illustrates the approach.
Cheers, -- Adrian
Adrian Walker
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At 06:24 AM 11/30/2004 +0000, you wrote:
>Last week I attended a semantic web seminar hosted by Eric Miller, who is
>a Semantic Web Activity Lead for the W3C, and we started to discuss the
>future of OWL-S and why it seemed that the industry (chiefly commercial
>interests) have been slow to adopt semantic web services. By "slow" we
>were comparing how OWL-S does not seem to have the same transition from
>more of a research/academic initiative to more commercial implemenations
>as seen with RDF and OWL. As such we figured it would be best to open up
>a discussion as to why this is, and how to spur the transition as well as
>to allow people to comment freely on OWL-S. Here is a list a questions
>and statements that may help jumpstart the conversation:
>
>This OWL-S standard is still a W3C submission. Is it still to early to
>discuss the viability of OWL-S before it becomes a
>recommendation? Perhaps many are still trying to digest the specifications?
>
>Are there not enough concrete examples/documentation for users to follow,
>and help expose the benefit of semantically describing a web service?
>
>Are the good examples that do exist not given enough publicity, and a
>convenient way to search for them?
>
>Are there not enough tools to help automate the process of semantically
>describing a web service?
>
>Are there other standards or emerging technologies that overlap with
>OWL-S, and lessen its importance?
>
>
>These are just a few questions to start on, but please feel free to
>comment on any aspect of this topic. The goal is to create some
>excitement, and realization of the importance of OWL-S. Thanks for your
>time, and thoughts
>
>Josh Grob
>BBN Technologies
>Software Engineer
>10 Moulton Street
>Cambridge, MA 02138
>
>
>
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