Re: Proposal for good developer relationships on the social web

I appreciate the work Evan put into this but I don't understand the purpose
of such a statement. We already know that we work together under the W3C
CoC and policies. If there had been some notable breach of this behavior by
the CG I would support a public re-affirmation of those values but
thankfully there hasn't been. I imagine a statement like this would just
lead to a bunch of head-scratching by onlookers. Indeed I am currently
head-scratching at it and I have full context.

The original letter
<https://writings.thisismissem.social/statement-on-discourse-about-activitypub-and-at-protocol/>
was something I enthusiastically signed because it was bringing something
new to the discourse: claims about ways to move the web forward by working
together and suggesting a convergent design direction for two specific
protocols, AT and AP. The current proposal brings one new thing: an
extension of expected behavior outside the CG context, just reads to me
like a minor scolding or at best a claim that our values as the CG are the
correct baseline for discourse in general, neither of which I support.

-Darius

On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 9:12 AM Evan Prodromou <evan@prodromou.name> wrote:

> Last week, I spent some time talking with Emelia Smith about cooperation
> with other developer communities on the social web, outside of the
> ActivityPub and Indie Web ecosystems. We thought that making a proposal
> that the CG could pass as a resolution would be a good step forward.
>
> I volunteered to write a compact, proposal-ready statement. Here's the
> first draft:
>
> *PROPOSED: Our Community Group includes members that focus on the
> ActivityPub, Indie Web, ATProto, Nostr and DSNP ecosystems. We re-commit
> ourselves to working together in this group under the W3C Code of Conduct
> https://www.w3.org/policies/code-of-conduct/
> <https://www.w3.org/policies/code-of-conduct/> and the General
> Communications Policies for W3C Community Groups
> https://www.w3.org/community/about/process/#general-policies
> <https://www.w3.org/community/about/process/#general-policies> . We further
> commit to hold ourselves to the same standard of conduct with social web
> developers**, regardless of the protocol they work with,** outside of the
> Community group context, in public or private, such as in online
> discussions or in-person meetings.*
>
> I think this grounds our expected behaviour in already well-established
> policies. It reemphasizes the level of behaviour we all committed to when
> we joined the group. And it extends our expected level of behaviour outside
> of the CG context (mailing list, meetings, GitHub, forums) to other
> contexts as well.
>
> I can put this up on my private GitHub repo or add it to the SWICG repos,
> or just add it to the agenda for the November meeting (TPAC).
>
> Evan
>