Re: Testing TF / FediTest

A few notes from the meeting:

* I gave an update on where we are with FediTest, demo, and next steps. Slides are linked from here: https://feditest.org/blog/2024-11-21-feditest-presentation-at-w3c-swicg/

* If you want the short summary:

   * Where we are: https://feditest.org/slides/2024-11-21-socialcg-testing/#8
   * Plans going forward: https://feditest.org/slides/2024-11-21-socialcg-testing/#31

* Lots of discussion on the (technical and non-technical) practicalities of getting lots of Fediverse applications tested on a regular basis. I didn’t hear much push-back on the approach we are taking, though.

* 4 people attended this meeting.

* While we don’t have final commitments yet, there is significant interest in the “Social Web Interoperability Testing Network” (see last slide) from Fediverse developers.

Cheers,



Johannes.



> On Nov 19, 2024, at 12:31, Johannes Ernst <johannes.ernst@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> https://github.com/swicg/ap-test-suite-taskforce/issues/1
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 19, 2024, at 11:33, Emelia S. <emelia@brandedcode.com> wrote:
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>> @Johannes
>> 
>> I can also strongly recommend creating an issue in that TF's repository to store a rough meeting agenda in, e.g., https://github.com/swicg/activitypub-trust-and-safety/issues/35
>> 
>> – Emelia
>> 
>>> On 19 Nov 2024, at 19:48, Dmitri Zagidulin <dzagidulin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sure, I can add it to the calendar.
>>> And no, no particular TF-specific Jitsi, just use whatever jitsi room name you want.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 6:43 PM Johannes Ernst <johannes.ernst@dazzlelabs.net <mailto:johannes.ernst@dazzlelabs.net>> wrote:
>>>> In which case:
>>>> 
>>>>     Thu, Nov 21, 10am pacific time 
>>>> 
>>>> Testing Task Force meeting. 
>>>> 
>>>> Can this be put on the calendar? (Not sure who can put it on).
>>>> Is there a TF-specific Jitsi we should use?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Johannes.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 18, 2024, at 22:07, Juan Caballero <virtualofficehours@gmail.com <mailto:virtualofficehours@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> sorry, intercontinental conference travel knocked me out! I was waiting until others picked a time, I can make any of the three! Agenda sounds good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> but I strongly encourage any substantial contributor to any TF to call and calendar meetings anyways, don't stand on TF ceremony or let titles bottleneck progress.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024, 12:02 AM Johannes Ernst <johannes.ernst@dazzlelabs.net <mailto:johannes.ernst@dazzlelabs.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> As I’m not the chair of the Testing TF, I’m a little reluctant to call a TF meeting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We’ve done a few show-and-tell’s outside of the TF — most recently at SeaGL [1], which was recorded, but the recording is not online yet — but I figured this subject may also be of interest here.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know developers are interested and there is some talk to put a multi-project “testing network” together based on FediTest. That may be outside of the scope of this group, however.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Johannes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] https://feditest.org/blog/2024-11-09-feditest-presentation-at-seagl/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2024, at 20:00, Johannes Ernst <johannes.ernst@dazzlelabs.net <mailto:johannes.ernst@dazzlelabs.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I’d like to offer to give an overview over where we’ve gotten so far with FediTest, the project that builds a test framework and tests for the Fediverse protocol stack, and where we are planning to go next. It’s work in progress, but we’ve reached a good point to review where we are.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You might have seen some of the (work-in-progress) results: https://feditest.org/contrib/results/ — including the results from a first, fully-automated three-node system test.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Something like:
>>>>>>> 1. The various problems that need(ed) solving
>>>>>>> 2. FediTest architecture and approach
>>>>>>> 3. Demo
>>>>>>> 4. Remaining challenges and planned approach
>>>>>>> 5. Putting FediTest to work with more applications and more test coverage
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> … but agenda is definitely not cast in stone, all depends on what you all want to talk about.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Possible times, online:
>>>>>>> * Tuesday Nov 19th, 10am pacific time 
>>>>>>> * Thursday Nov 21, 9am pacific time
>>>>>>> * Thursday Nov 21, 10am pacific time
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Let me know if you are interested, which of those times don’t work for you, and if you have specific questions you’d like to have answered.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Johannes.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Johannes Ernst
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fediforum <https://fediforum.org/>
>>>>>>> Dazzle Labs <https://dazzlelabs.net/> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
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