- From: Ivan Herman <ivan@w3.org>
- Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 17:23:02 +0100
- To: Sandro Hawke <sandro@w3.org>
- CC: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, 'W3C SWEO IG' <public-sweo-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <457C3466.9070301@w3.org>
Sandro Hawke wrote: >>[[I quite liked Tom Gruber's keynote on 'Social Web'. Tom tried to avoid >>the controversial Web 2.0 term and talked rather of the collective >>intelligence of folksonomies, tagging, blogging, etc. It was good to > > > I liked his point that Web 2.0 is really "collected intelligence" and we > still haven't gotten to "collective intelligence". :-) > > >>hear a talk that avoids the unnecessary controversy on the relationship >>between Web 2.0 and, say, the Semantic Web. Tom also talked about an >>attempt to give a more coherent ontological model for tagging, though it >>seems that this work is stalled due to missing people to work on it (see >>also an earlier blog[4] he had on this for some more details). Would be >>good to pick this up]] >> >>Actually, the comment on Tim O'Reilly's blog that caught my eyes is the >>one of Steve Loughran. He says: >> >>"semantic web is built on ontologies and ubiquitous RDF" >> >>which, in this form, is incorrect and one of the 'myths' we do have >>around SW (maybe we should make it part of[5]), namely that any SW >>application must use ontologies, ie (according to this line of thought) >>has to use OWL, ie, is based on complex and difficult-to-understand >>concepts. > > > In itself, I don't think that statement is a myth. You can't use RDF > without a shared understanding of what certain URIs mean, typically some > class and property URIs. In Tom Gruber's world, at least, that shared > understanding is, loosely speaking, an ontology. Strictly speaking, the > specification that enables that shared understanding is the ontology. > (He talked about this a bit at the keynote, but also in a document from > 13 years ago, where I first saw his name [1].) Oh yes, that is true (I made this mistake once and JimH corrected me:-). What *is* a myth is that you have to use the full power of OWL all the time... > > It would be good if we could come up with a simpler, more accepted term > for this concept. Some options: > > ontology > (controlled) vocabulary > (data) dictionary > (rdf) schema > (data structure) interface > language fragment > I still prefer the (controlled) vocabulary. It is suboptimal, but seems the best among those... Ivan > Doesn't look good. :-) > > -- Sandro > > [1] http://www-ksl.stanford.edu/kst/what-is-an-ontology.html -- Ivan Herman, W3C Semantic Web Activity Lead URL: http://www.w3.org/People/Ivan/ PGP Key: http://www.cwi.nl/%7Eivan/AboutMe/pgpkey.html FOAF: http://www.ivan-herman.net/foaf.rdf
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