- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:49:54 -0400
- To: public-swd-wg@w3.org
The record of today's Semantic Web Deployment Working Group telecon
is now available as
http://www.w3.org/2009/07/07-swd-minutes.html
A text snapshot follows.
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[1]W3C
[1] http://www.w3.org/
Semantic Web Deployment Working Group
07 Jul 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0002.html
See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2009-06-02, [5]2009-06-23
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/07/07-swd-irc
[4] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html
[5] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/23-swd-irc
Attendees
Present
Ralph Swick, Tom Baker, Jon Phipps, Ed Summers, Guus
Schreiber
Regrets
Sean Bechhofer, Antoine Isaac, Diego Berrueta
Chair
Tom
Scribe
Ralph
Contents
* Topics
1. SKOS collaterals
2. RDFa
3. Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies
4. SKOS
5. SKOS Testimonials
6. next meeting
* Summary of Action Items
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SKOS collaterals
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages
for legacy specs [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[14] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11
SKOS community after after SWD
Ralph: Ivan has submitted a proposal for support of community fora
for SKOS and RDFa
... may know general feeling on that proposal by next telecon (2
weeks)
RDFa
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition
to Group Note [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[15] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02
ACTION: [DONE] Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01
Ralph: not sure about discussion of [17]issue 214
[17] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/214
Ed: what will be the impact of the announcement of XHTML2 WG charter
non-renewal past December?
Ralph: in the near term, nothing substantive needs to change, other
than the taskforce won't have a charter past September, the RDFa
Task Force has achieved its mission. they clearly need a different
charter past the end of September. It's part of a proposal that Ivan
submitted yesterday to provide wiki/mailing lists for this kind of
work. The message from Tim is pretty clear that we're going to
invest more resources in the HTML WG, We've committed in the faq to
having the discussion about a distributed extension mechanism for
HTML at the Technical Plenary in November.
-> [18]Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about the future of XHTML
[18] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/xhtml-faq
(see the bits about RDFa in particular)
Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies
PROPOSED to publish update of Recipes WG Note:
[19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.h
tml
[19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html
-- Editor's Draft 7 April 2009
[20]http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ moved into W3C space?
[20] http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/
Ralph: I believe we had already resolved that and I have an action
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to publish
[21]http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[21] http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/
[22] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07
ACTION: [DONE] Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note
from wiki to WG space [recorded in
[23]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[23] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10
-> [24]RDFa Metadata editor's draft copied out of wiki
[24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jun/0026.html
-> [25]Adding Metadata to W3C Technical Reports Editor's Draft
[25] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/tr-metadata/
SKOS
-> [26]ISSUE-224
[26] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/224
Guus: problem that this comment came during Proposed Rec review
... if we have some local patches, what are the implication?
Ralph: we can make editorial changes to examples
Guus: looking at 6.5.4 ... it's the use of chemical symbol notation
... I see the syntactic problem with the long language tag
... I don't see the problem with chemical symbol notation
... that's just a datatype
-> [27]6.5.4. Notations and Preferred Labels
[27] http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/#L2655
Ralph: use of chemical symbols as "language" may simply be a
difference of opinion on principle
Tom: I like the suggestion to resolve by adding a disclaimer
pointing people to BCP 47 and saying this is an area where best
practice might be evolving
Guus: and people might want to consult this space before deciding on
a solution
... Alistair is more familiar with language issues than either Sean
or I; he may know what to say
Ralph: is Alistair reachable again?
Tom: yes
-> [28][SKOS] Re: ISSUE-224 [Ralph]
[28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0009.html
[[
I would recommend instead that we offer to (a) modify the
example(s) to be syntactically conformant and (b) offer to add
a phrase such as "note that such use of private subtags to
transmit data unrelated to language or language choice may
violate BCP 47".
]]
Guus: let's ask Alistair and Sean for their agreement to this
... we can resolve here that we find Ralph's proposal acceptable
contingent upon Sean and Alistair's agreement
PROPOSE: We (a) modify the example(s) in 6.5.4 to be syntactically
conformant to BCP 47 and (b) offer to add a phrase such as "note
that such use of private subtags to transmit data unrelated to
language or language choice may violate BCP 47" contingent on
Alistair and Sean's agreeing
Tom: ok
<edsu> +1
Jon: ok
Guus: ok
RESOLUTION: We (a) modify the example(s) in 6.5.4 to be
syntactically conformant to BCP 47 and (b) offer to add a phrase
such as "note that such use of private subtags to transmit data
unrelated to language or language choice may violate BCP 47"
contingent on Alistair and Sean's agreeing
Tom: so editors would write a phrase and offer it to I18N Core?
Ralph: yes
Guus: timing might be tricky
... I'll be away a lot after next week
-> [29]Antoine's offer
[29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0004.html
Guus: let's resolve to fix the editorial change in [30]ISSUE-225
[30] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/225
Tom: Sean and I discussed this and I think the singular form is
correct
Guus: but we need to respond to the comment
Tom: Sean and I were in agreement that the singular "note" is
correct, but I prefer to leave it to him to reply to the comment
PROPOSE: Sean to decide on issue-225
RESOLUTION: Sean to decide on issue-225
SKOS Testimonials
Guus: I have a number of actions on testimonials
... I've asked Antoine to help and he's already done some work
next meeting
Tom: I'm unavailable in 2 weeks
... propose 4 August
Guus: I'm out 4 August but available on 11 August
Tom: let's work on a press release before you leave
... before 18 July
... let's try 3-way mail with Ivan in the next 10 days
<GuusS> as an aside: minutes of "publishing vocabs" meeting during
Dagstuhl workshop:
<GuusS> [31]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-swdag2009-minutes.html
[31] http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-swdag2009-minutes.html
<GuusS> proposal is to publish a white paper, to be edited in ESW
wiki
<GuusS> I have the action to see whether this group, in particular
TOM, wants to contribute
<GuusS> i have to leave anyway, I hope we covered all
<Ralph> I think so, I'm proposing that you, Tom, Ivan coordinate via
email
<GuusS> ok
<GuusS> have a good holiday (I hope you will get some)
<TomB> Guusl, next call on 11 Aug?
next meeting: 11 August, Guus to chair
<GuusS> ok
[adjourned]
Summary of Action Items
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition
to Group Note [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for
legacy specs [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to publish
[34]http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[32] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02
[33] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11
[34] http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/
[35] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07
[DONE] ACTION: Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note
from wiki to WG space [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10]
[DONE] ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[36] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10
[37] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01
[End of minutes]
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