- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:49:54 -0400
- To: public-swd-wg@w3.org
The record of today's Semantic Web Deployment Working Group telecon is now available as http://www.w3.org/2009/07/07-swd-minutes.html A text snapshot follows. ---- [1]W3C [1] http://www.w3.org/ Semantic Web Deployment Working Group 07 Jul 2009 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0002.html See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2009-06-02, [5]2009-06-23 [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/07/07-swd-irc [4] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html [5] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/23-swd-irc Attendees Present Ralph Swick, Tom Baker, Jon Phipps, Ed Summers, Guus Schreiber Regrets Sean Bechhofer, Antoine Isaac, Diego Berrueta Chair Tom Scribe Ralph Contents * Topics 1. SKOS collaterals 2. RDFa 3. Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies 4. SKOS 5. SKOS Testimonials 6. next meeting * Summary of Action Items __________________________________________________ SKOS collaterals ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in [14]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11] [14] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11 SKOS community after after SWD Ralph: Ivan has submitted a proposal for support of community fora for SKOS and RDFa ... may know general feeling on that proposal by next telecon (2 weeks) RDFa ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in [15]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [15] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02 ACTION: [DONE] Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [16] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01 Ralph: not sure about discussion of [17]issue 214 [17] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/214 Ed: what will be the impact of the announcement of XHTML2 WG charter non-renewal past December? Ralph: in the near term, nothing substantive needs to change, other than the taskforce won't have a charter past September, the RDFa Task Force has achieved its mission. they clearly need a different charter past the end of September. It's part of a proposal that Ivan submitted yesterday to provide wiki/mailing lists for this kind of work. The message from Tim is pretty clear that we're going to invest more resources in the HTML WG, We've committed in the faq to having the discussion about a distributed extension mechanism for HTML at the Technical Plenary in November. -> [18]Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) about the future of XHTML [18] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/xhtml-faq (see the bits about RDFa in particular) Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies PROPOSED to publish update of Recipes WG Note: [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.h tml [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html -- Editor's Draft 7 April 2009 [20]http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ moved into W3C space? [20] http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ Ralph: I believe we had already resolved that and I have an action ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to publish [21]http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07] [21] http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ [22] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07 ACTION: [DONE] Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note from wiki to WG space [recorded in [23]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10] [23] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10 -> [24]RDFa Metadata editor's draft copied out of wiki [24] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jun/0026.html -> [25]Adding Metadata to W3C Technical Reports Editor's Draft [25] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/tr-metadata/ SKOS -> [26]ISSUE-224 [26] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/224 Guus: problem that this comment came during Proposed Rec review ... if we have some local patches, what are the implication? Ralph: we can make editorial changes to examples Guus: looking at 6.5.4 ... it's the use of chemical symbol notation ... I see the syntactic problem with the long language tag ... I don't see the problem with chemical symbol notation ... that's just a datatype -> [27]6.5.4. Notations and Preferred Labels [27] http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/#L2655 Ralph: use of chemical symbols as "language" may simply be a difference of opinion on principle Tom: I like the suggestion to resolve by adding a disclaimer pointing people to BCP 47 and saying this is an area where best practice might be evolving Guus: and people might want to consult this space before deciding on a solution ... Alistair is more familiar with language issues than either Sean or I; he may know what to say Ralph: is Alistair reachable again? Tom: yes -> [28][SKOS] Re: ISSUE-224 [Ralph] [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0009.html [[ I would recommend instead that we offer to (a) modify the example(s) to be syntactically conformant and (b) offer to add a phrase such as "note that such use of private subtags to transmit data unrelated to language or language choice may violate BCP 47". ]] Guus: let's ask Alistair and Sean for their agreement to this ... we can resolve here that we find Ralph's proposal acceptable contingent upon Sean and Alistair's agreement PROPOSE: We (a) modify the example(s) in 6.5.4 to be syntactically conformant to BCP 47 and (b) offer to add a phrase such as "note that such use of private subtags to transmit data unrelated to language or language choice may violate BCP 47" contingent on Alistair and Sean's agreeing Tom: ok <edsu> +1 Jon: ok Guus: ok RESOLUTION: We (a) modify the example(s) in 6.5.4 to be syntactically conformant to BCP 47 and (b) offer to add a phrase such as "note that such use of private subtags to transmit data unrelated to language or language choice may violate BCP 47" contingent on Alistair and Sean's agreeing Tom: so editors would write a phrase and offer it to I18N Core? Ralph: yes Guus: timing might be tricky ... I'll be away a lot after next week -> [29]Antoine's offer [29] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0004.html Guus: let's resolve to fix the editorial change in [30]ISSUE-225 [30] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/225 Tom: Sean and I discussed this and I think the singular form is correct Guus: but we need to respond to the comment Tom: Sean and I were in agreement that the singular "note" is correct, but I prefer to leave it to him to reply to the comment PROPOSE: Sean to decide on issue-225 RESOLUTION: Sean to decide on issue-225 SKOS Testimonials Guus: I have a number of actions on testimonials ... I've asked Antoine to help and he's already done some work next meeting Tom: I'm unavailable in 2 weeks ... propose 4 August Guus: I'm out 4 August but available on 11 August Tom: let's work on a press release before you leave ... before 18 July ... let's try 3-way mail with Ivan in the next 10 days <GuusS> as an aside: minutes of "publishing vocabs" meeting during Dagstuhl workshop: <GuusS> [31]http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-swdag2009-minutes.html [31] http://www.w3.org/2009/07/01-swdag2009-minutes.html <GuusS> proposal is to publish a white paper, to be edited in ESW wiki <GuusS> I have the action to see whether this group, in particular TOM, wants to contribute <GuusS> i have to leave anyway, I hope we covered all <Ralph> I think so, I'm proposing that you, Tom, Ivan coordinate via email <GuusS> ok <GuusS> have a good holiday (I hope you will get some) <TomB> Guusl, next call on 11 Aug? next meeting: 11 August, Guus to chair <GuusS> ok [adjourned] Summary of Action Items [PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to publish [34]http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG Note recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07] [32] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02 [33] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11 [34] http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ [35] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07 [DONE] ACTION: Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note from wiki to WG space [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10] [DONE] ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [36] http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10 [37] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01 [End of minutes] _____________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's [38]scribe.perl version 1.135 ([39]CVS log) $Date: 2009/07/07 23:49:26 $ [38] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm [39] http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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