Re: [All] Agenda - 2009-07-07 SWD telecon

By way of input to a potential 'Best Practices' discussion...
I saw the flame war that erupted and the passions evoked in that thread, was
more than a bit dismayed, but chose not to participate given the level of
discussion.

I was under the impression that we had made the target audience for the best
Practices document fairly clear -- It's not a comprehensive "everything you
need to know about about pushing rdf out to the web as linked data", nor is
it aimed at _anyone_ who might have direct or indirect access to the Apache
config files. As a matter of fact the recipes can't be used as-is in Apache
config files because the rewrite paths are different.

As for the Apache-specific nature of the current document, I believe that we
made an attempt to open up the recipes to alternative base servers by
inviting alternative recipes and providing a place to submit them.

It remains that the audience for this document is people publishing _RDF
vocabularies_ in the form of one or more discrete documents, working in a
shared server environment, with minimal or no scripting skills, and
independent of any scripting language. Maybe we could emphasize those
limitations more strongly and make it clearer that we're not trying to
propose a comprehensive set of solutions to publishing RDF in general and
we're not making an attempt to fully overcome the limitations imposed by
lack of access to the server configuration.

It's true that we don't mention as a possible URI pattern the increasingly
popular '303-hash' URI [1], and this could be easily and happily added. I
believe that this was discussed at one point and we decided not to add
another layer of complication (and more recipes), but the apparent appeal of
this pattern certainly makes it worthwhile revisiting.

Best,
Jon

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/cooluris/#choosing

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Thomas Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de> wrote:

> Agenda - Jul 07 2009 SWD telecon - 1500 UTC
> W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group
>       http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/
>       http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/
>       Tuesday, 1500 UTC / 0800 Seattle / 1100 Boston / 1600 London / 1700
> Amsterdam
>       Phone : Boston: +1-617-761-6200
>               Nice: +33-4-8906-3499
>               Bristol: +44-117-370-6152
>       Conference code 79394# ('SWDWG')
>       IRC:    irc://irc.w3.org:6665/swd (member-only)
>               http://www.w3.org/2001/01/cgi-irc (Web client)
>
> Chair:  Tom
> Scribe:
> Regrets:
>
> Attendance of SWD WG telecons is restricted to registered
> WG participants and persons invited by the chairs.  As of
> 2008-07-01, telecons are no longer held weekly but on an
> "as needed" basis.
>
> ===========================================
> 1. ADMIN (10 min)
>
> Recently held telecons:
>
>   http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html
>   http://www.w3.org/2009/06/23-swd-irc
>
> Proposed next telecon: 4 August
>
> ============================================
> 2. SKOS
>
> -- Proposed recommendation
>   http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item102
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/PR-skos-reference-20090615/
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-skos-primer-20090615/
>
> -- Comments
>   2009-07-06.
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0001.html
>   2009-06-29. Addison Phillips on I18N issue
>   -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jun/0040.html
>
> -- Testimonials
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jun/0033.html
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> SKOS Primer (Antoine, Ed)
>
> 2009-06-15. W3C Working Draft 15 June 2009.
> -- http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-skos-primer-20090615/
>
> PROPOSED: Publish revised SKOS Primer as a Group Note at the time
> the final SKOS Recommendation is published.
>
> -- ACTION: to identify final version of Primer
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> SKOS Use Cases and Requirements (editors Daniel, Jon, Antoine)
> -- http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-skos-ucr-20070516/
> -- http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/UCRMaterial/RequirementStatus
>
> RESOLUTION 2009-05-19: Publish revised SKOS Use Cases and
> Requirements as a Group Note at the time the final SKOS
> Recommendation is published
>
> ACTION 2009-05-19: SWD WG to identify final version of Use Cases.
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> SKOS Implementation report - to be published at
> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/implementation-report
>
> 2009-05-19:
> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html
>
> ========================================================
> 3. SKOS collaterals
>
> -- From "SKOS Mapping Vocabulary Specification"
>   http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/mapping/spec/
>   to
>
>
> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDeprecationPages?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=DeprecationPage-SKOSMappingVocabulary.htm
>
>   (Currently it simply redirects to SKOS Reference.)
>
> -- From "Quick Guide to Publishing a Thesaurus on the Semantic Web"
>    http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-thesaurus-pubguide/
>    to
>
>
> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDeprecationPages?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=DeprecationPage-QuickGuideToPublishThesauri.htm
>
> ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs
> [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> SKOS community after after SWD
>
>    SKOS home page
>    -- http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core
>
>    SKOS logos
>    -- http://www.w3.org/2007/10/sw-logos.html
>
>    Possible models:
>    -- http://rdfa.info/
>       RDFa community Web site
>    -- http://www.w3.org/RDF/
>       Overview page for RDF
>
>    Possible venues:
>    -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/
>       Semantic Web Interest Group discussion list
>    -- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-esw-thes/
>       Ongoing SWAD-Europe list on RDF and Thesauri
>    -- http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/
>       "SKOS Home Page"
>    -- http://esw.w3.org/topic/SkosDev
>       "SkosDev" wiki page on ESW wiki
>
> =============================================
> 4. RDFa
> -- RDFa is a W3C Recommendation!
>   http://www.w3.org/News/2008#item174
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-rdfa-syntax-20081014/
>
> -- RDFa Primer published as WG Note
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-xhtml-rdfa-primer-20081014/
>
> -- RDFa Use Cases
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/WD-xhtml-rdfa-scenarios-20070330/
>   Scheduled for publication as Working Group Note
>
> -- RDFa Task Force telecons Teleconferences on Thursdays, 1600 UTC -
>   open to "everyone interested in RDFa"
>   irc://irc.w3.org:6665/rdfa, conference code 7332# ('RDFa').
>
> -- Most recent telecon - 25 June
>   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Jul/0000.html
>
> ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note
> [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
>
> ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with RDFa TF [recorded in
> http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
>
> =========================================
> 5. Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/swbp-vocab-pub/
>
> -- Published as Working Group Note, 28 August 2009:
>   http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-swbp-vocab-pub-20080828/
>
> PROPOSED to publish update of Recipes WG Note:
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009Apr/0017.html
> -- Editor's Draft 7 April 2009 http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ moved
> into W3C space?
>
> ============================================
> 6. Adding Metadata to W3C Technical Reports (Diego and Ed)
>   http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/RDFa/tr-metadata/
>
> 2008-10-07. Editor's draft
>
> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/AddingRDFaToTR?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=tr-metadata-20081002.html
>
> ACTION: Ralph to publish http://berrueta.net/recipes-20090407/ as a WG
> Note [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action07]
>
> ACTION: Ralph to move current ED of the RDFa metadata note from wiki to WG
> space [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2009/06/02-swd-minutes.html#action10]
>
> --
> Tom Baker <tbaker@tbaker.de>
>
>