- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 16:06:57 -0400
- To: public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf@w3.org
- Cc: public-swd-wg@w3.org
The minutes of today's RDF-in-XHTML Task Force telecon are now available as
http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html
Thanks to Manu for scribing.
A text snapshot follows.
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RDF in XHTML Task Force
16 Apr 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2009Apr/0045.html
See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2009-04-02
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-irc
[4] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/02-rdfa-minutes.html
Attendees
Present
Manu Sporny, Ralph Swick, Ben Adida, Steven Pemberton
Regrets
Mark Birbeck, Michael Hausenblas, Shane McCarron
Chair
Ben Adida
Scribe
Manu Sporny
Contents
* Topics
1. Action Items
2. @prefix discussion status
3. Report on AC meeting
4. Task Force lifespan
* Summary of Action Items
_____________________________________________________
Action Items
ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa" with
screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded in
[11]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[CONTINUES]
[11] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once the NS URI
is set up. [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[WITHDRAWN]
[12] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03
ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases for Ivan.
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
[CONTINUES]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09
ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
[CONTINUES]
[14] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11
ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning [recorded in
[15]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[CONTINUES]
[15] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
[CONTINUES]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13
ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki [recorded
in [17]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
[CONTINUES]
[17] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14
ACTION: Ralph or Steven fix the .htaccess for the XHTML namespace
[recorded in
[18]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[CONTINUES]
[18] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in
[19]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[CONTINUES]
[19] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15
ACTION: [DONE] Manu to look at
[20]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008D
ec/0037.html about resolving relative URIs [recorded in
[21]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[20] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html
[21] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action15
ACTION: [DONE] Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about=""
on HEAD and BODY [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc]
[22] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc
@prefix discussion status
benadida: Wanted to have a meta-discussion on @prefix.
... Should we hold off on the @prefix discussion?
Steven: AC meeting was good because we got to talk about all of the
companies that were using XHTML2.
benadida: There seemed to be a big disconnect between WHATWG/HTML5
and the ideas and usage behind XHTML2.
... If you are going to support extensibility in HTML5, how are you
going to ignore all previous XML technologies?
prefix="a=b c = d"
<Ralph> [23]previous @prefix discussion
[23] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/02-rdfa-minutes.html#item03
<Ralph> <ShaneM> (.*)[\s\r\n]*=[\s\r\n]*(.*?)[\s\r\n]+
<Ralph> ^Shane proposed that regex
Manu: After the discussion last week, I think we agreed on Shane's
regex.
ACTION: Manu to update wiki page on current consensus for @prefix
[recorded in
[24]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
benadida: What do you think about @xmlns over @prefix?
Manu: Prefer @prefix because of HTML4 and xmlns: might be confusing
to web developers.
Ralph: Might be interesting to see how HTML4->HTML5 conversion
process works.
... The SVG folks have the same issues with xmlns not being in
HTML5.
benadida: So this issue is much bigger than RDFa.
Ralph: Yes, it has to do with general extensibility.
benadida: @prefix wiki page should say it is an alternate prefix
mapping mechanism.
Ralph: There is a danger in confusing authors by having two
mechanisms to do the same thing.
benadida: So if we have a syntax, we can back-burner it and see what
happens with the xmlns discussion.
Report on AC meeting
benadida: Kinda talked a bit about this already.
Ralph: Yes, interested in hearing your take on it.
benadida: Very positive meeting in tone and approach, Sam Ruby is a
good guy.
Task Force lifespan
benadida: How much time does the task force have?
Ralph: The end of June is the charter.
Steven: XHTML2 charter is up in December 2009.
Ralph: It could be June-December, depending on who continues to
sponsor RDFa Task Force.
... I think we should consider June the adjournment date.
... We could turn the mailing list into an RDFa interest group,
maybe fold it back into semantic web interest group.
benadida: We should think about any last things we should think
about as a task force.
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Manu to update wiki page on current consensus for
@prefix [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/16-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben to put up information on "how to write RDFa"
with screencast possibly and instructions on bookmarklet. [recorded
in [26]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Manu to write summary for Semantic Web Use Cases
for Ivan. [recorded in
[27]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark create base wizard suitable for cloning
[recorded in
[28]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark to send Ben ubiquity related wizard stuff
[recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Mark write foaf examples for wiki [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13]
[PENDING] ACTION: Michael to create 'RDFa for uF users' on RDFa Wiki
[recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph or Steven fix the .htaccess for the XHTML
namespace [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph think about RSS+RDFa [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/06-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
[27] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action09
[28] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action12
[29] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/20-rdfa-minutes.html#action11
[30] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action13
[31] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action14
[32] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action01
[33] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action15
[DONE] ACTION: Manu to look at
[34]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008D
ec/0037.html about resolving relative URIs [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action15]
[DONE] ACTION: Mark to review reasoning on setting explicit about=""
on HEAD and BODY [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc]
[34] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdf-in-xhtml-tf/2008Dec/0037.html
[35] http://www.w3.org/2009/01/08-rdfa-minutes.html#action15
[36] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/18-rdfa-irc
[WITHDRAWN] ACTION: Jeremy to demonstrate GRDDL with XHTML/RDFa once
the NS URI is set up. [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03]
[End of minutes]
_____________________________________________________
[37] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/11-rdfa-minutes.html#action03
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