- From: Antoine Isaac <aisaac@few.vu.nl>
- Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 09:01:01 +0200
- To: Alistair Miles <alistair.miles@zoo.ox.ac.uk>
- CC: public-swd-wg@w3.org, public-esw-thes@w3.org
Hi, I am rather against releasing the restriction on skosxl:literalForm. We introduced it as a means to have annotations on labels, and links at the level of labels, but not to introduce a new level of labelling (that is, non string-based, for instance). Indeed we're try to have these "enhanced" labels as related as possible to the plain literals that are used as objects of skos:prefLabel. Hence the axioms S55, S56 and S57 (in the July 30 editor's draft [1]). They "dumb-down" the XL labels, but also help ensuring that what is done with the SKOS-XL extension does not go against the design and semantics of standard literal labelling properties. Further, I think your solution (1) will already catch a number of use cases without opening that can of worms. If the accessibility-related use case complies with the philosophy of standard SKOS labelling, then it is perfectly feasible to use accessibility-related properties with instances of skosxl:Label, in addition to the literal form of these. Your analogy with the text captions given to HTML image is I think especially appropriate as the way to proceed then. If we allow for your (2) approach, then it means that XL more-or-less allows enables labels on which we have no real control from a data model perspective. And maybe it's a bit again what we decided for ISSUE-76 [2]... By the way where is in the Reference the axiom that says that an instance of xl:Label should have exactly one literal form? I can find in A.2.4.1 a sentence that says > As stated above, each instance of the class xl:Label has one and only > one literal form But the only formal axiom that may correspond to that is the one that states that literalForm is an owl:FunctionalProperty... Cheers, Antoine [1] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20080730/ [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/76 > The second part of this comment needs some discussion before I can > frame a response... > > Executive summary: > > It would be a good thing if the SKOS XL vocabulary could serve as an > extension point for the provision of labels in other modalities, for > example in accessibility-related use cases. > > To serve as an extension point, we have to either > > (1) live with the current XL data model, especially the restriction on > the cardinality of skosxl:literalForm, which requires that all > instances of skosxl:Label have exactly one plain literal form (even if > they are intended to convey a label in another modality). > > or > > (2) relax the restriction on skosxl:literalForm, such that instances > of skosxl:Label are not required to have a plain literal form (but if > they do, they have at most 1) > > Personally, I think I favour (2), although it requires a substantive > change to the SKOS Reference. > > Further discussion below... > > On Wed, Oct 08, 2008 at 09:54:57AM +0000, SWD Issue Tracker wrote: > >> ISSUE-180: Last Call Comment: PFWG: skosxl:Label class >> >> http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/180 >> >> Raised by: Everyone >> On product: All >> >> Raised by Al Gilman on behalf of PFWG in [1]: >> >> """ >> > [...] > >> The label framework should explicitly cater for non-textual labels in >> image, audio or video format, and as provided in other markup >> languages such as MathML. Labels in other modalities may serve as >> alternate labels in accessibility-related use cases. SKOS should >> provide guidance as to how to provide images, audio and video content >> as alternate labels. Currently, icons are being standardized as >> representing concepts in an upcoming multi-part standard ISO/IEC >> 11581, developed by ISO/IEC JTC1 SC35. SKOS should be able to >> specify these icons as part of a knowledge organization system. >> > [...] > >> """ >> > > Currently the SKOS Reference defines skosxl:Label as "a special class > of lexical entities". It also says that "each instance of this class > has a single plain literal form...". > > This is reinforced by statement S53, where skosxl:Label is a sub-class > of a restriction on skosxl:literalForm cardinality exactly 1. > > This raises a possible problem for use of the XL vocabulary as an > extension point for extensions as described by Al above. > > For example, let's say a third party wants to extend the SKOS XL > vocabulary to represent labels in various XML markup languages. They > define extensions as follows: > > ex:XMLLabel rdf:type owl:Class ; > rdfs:subClassOf skosxl:Label . > > ex:xmlLiteralForm rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ; > rdfs:domain ex:XMLLabel ; > rdfs:range rdfs:XMLLiteral . > > ex:xmlContentType rdf:type owl:DatatypeProperty ; > rdfs:domain ex:XMLLabel . > > to be used as in e.g. > > <MyConcept> skosxl:prefLabel <MyXMLLabel> . > > <MyXMLLabel> rdf:type ex:XMLLabel ; > ex:xmlLiteralForm """E = mc<sup>2</sup>""" ; > ex:xmlContentType "application/xhtml+xml" . > > The potential problem is that the XL data model currently requires > that *every* instance of xl:Label has a plain literal form. Therefore, > the example above entails > > <MyXMLLabel> skosxl:literalForm _:aaa . > > where _:aaa is some as yet unknown plain literal. > > In practical terms, this means that every refinement of the > skosxl:Label class should always give a plain literal form for the > label, in addition to whatever other modality is the primary carrier > of the label. > > >From an accessibility point of view this is not necessarily a bad > thing. I.e. it's very roughly analogous to requiring alt text for > images in HTML. However it is a bit restrictive for all cases. > > The alternative would be to relax the definition of the xl:Label > class. So instead of > > """ A special class of lexical entities, called skosxl:Label, is > defined. Each instance of this class has a single RDF plain literal > form, but two instances of this class are not necessarily the same > individual if they share the same literal form. """ > > we say something like > > """ This appendix defines a class called skosxl:Label. Each instance > of this class has at most one RDF plain literal form, but two > instances of this class are not necessarily the same individual if > they share the same literal form. """ > > and we replace S53 with either > > """ > skosxl:Label is a sub-class of a restriction on skosxl:literalForm cardinality at most 1. > """ > > or (reverting to the previous model) > > """ > skosxl:literalForm is an instance of owl:FunctionalProperty. > """ > > What do you think? > > Cheers, > > Alistair. > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2008Oct/0063.html > >
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